I’m specifically talking about when you guys add Sym rework to the PTR. It’d suck if we have to wait over a month for Syms rework to hit live and the game is still in the state it’s in.
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I hope so honestly. Anyone saying they’re both fine are probably lying to themselves. Brigs shield Hp shouldn’t be as much as Winstons. Brig also does to much in general for little reward and she needs drawbacks to her shield bash Hanzo Storm Arrows need to be toned down in the cd department so they don’t rely on it as much. They should also increase his ult charge because it’s extremely high.
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Brig is getting there, I’d leave her alone for now, but Hanzo still needs some tuning.
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They just need to take off headshot from storm and Hanzo is fine.
Brig is fine the way she is after her latest nerf. You just need to respect her space. Longer range and explosive characters can easily dispatch her.
Leave her alone? Do you not see what she’s doing in the game right now? She still needs to be toned down with some drawbacks. She’s in the support category and her shield has the same HP as an actual tank? Nerf her shield hp to 300 and make her shield bash take away 100 hp per bash. Lower her burst damage just a little bit and give her more healing. Now she’s balanced and has to think about what she does.
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It’s like she’s a tank/support hybrid hero. 
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Brings shield barely protects her. Winston’s shield protects everyone.
You can also very easily do explosions right beside it that will still hurt/kill her like Pharah and Junkrat. Can’t only do explosions on Winston’s shield while everything is protected inside.
I’m also a firm believer that they need to give an additional 100 - 200 hp to Winston’s shield.
And she’s so impactful right now because of the armor she brings to the game which just got a 50 less nerf.
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She’s a Hybrid. She tanks only because of her sustain. She’s oppressive to nearly most of the cast not including when she’s in the middle of a team fight hiding behind tanks.
I think Brigitte is fine after the bash and Ult balance, but Hanzo needs an actual Ult Charge increase, not indirect via damage (which was needed), but an actual proper charge increase.
So we’re going to fault characters that know how to work as a team? That’s counter productive. Characters always seem better when they are working together because, well, they are working together as they should.
That’s why pirate ship is pretty unbeatable.
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Brigitte’s fine now. It’s just Hanzo that needs changes
Only increase ult charge for storm arrows or get rid of them and add the better shield piercing arrow
So basically according to forums now Brig is balanced aight. Well see you guys when hero 28 is released.
Brigitte is in a good spot to me. The only hero who needs nerfs at the moment is Hanzo.
Hopefully Hanzo gets nerfed soon. He has no weaknesses anymore. He is effective at every range and has now even more mobility. He really deserves that nerf.
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YES, but it will take decades…like always
It’s easy to destroy with ANY focus fire, quit complaining about it.
She does extremely little unless it’s against extremely specific opponents in extremely specific contexts. Outside of those scenarios, she’s monumentally sub-par.
Also, THE DRAWBACK TO SHIELD BASH IS THE RANGE AND VULNERABILITY FOR GETTING SO CLOSE TO ENEMIES. What part of that is so godforsakenly impossible to comprehend?
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Most team fights happen in close range idk what game you’re playing? Focus fire down a BRIG shield? You usually don’t have the chance to do so because she’s either attacking you with her team or she momentarily shield bashed you. She only has her shield up to bash instantly or when she wants to back away into her team who she’s usually always with.
You can focus fire a rein shield because of how big it is but focus firing down her shield with how little it is and how much hp it has is harder then you’re trying to make it seem.
Ever consider the obvious idea to just not be within five meters all the time? You make it sound as if everyone has to be in melee range to be in a team fight, even though they don’t.
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Yea because people forget its not always five meter. She can shield bash closer to close five meter and has a 6 meter worth of range from her flail. She can sit behind her shield for the entire 6 seconds her bash is on cooldown. So basically she has 11 meters of optimal range.