Archives have not returned in 2022, 2023 and 2024. Yet, we got boring PvE and in the original PvE ideas, Talon would be fought. So, could Blizzard do something about this? I want those really good missions back! They’re awesome! The OW PvE Discord Server has talked about this for a few days 2 weeks back. I mean for a few days and those days were 2 weeks back. So, my conclusion is that Blizzard should bring these goated missions back.
Please, PLEASE bring back Retribution. I need to play that event again.
It is sad that the focus on PvE is what drove the devs to make OW2, but then OW2 came out and the devs decided to not focus on PvE, but rather PvP and look at PvP right now…
It is a lot of back-tracking and empty promises. which is sad to say the very least.
I know!
I want that too!
PVE invasion is not boring, but it has a wrong setup. it’s very different as a statement.
Unlimited time stuff will be the first to be abandoned when they run out (see gauntlet mode: “OMG blizzy wants to delete it! let’s play it while it’s still active” some people said online when it was announced that it would be deactivated.) Archives would have had this flaw too if it hadn’t been a limited time event that we knew very well we would have to wait for after a year, and therefore we played it as long as we could (and the lootboxing from leveling up also helped as “encouragement” to repeat matches)
The problem with the PVE idea is the essential requirement of having 3 other players if you want to enjoy it on high difficulties. If it had been thought of as a single player mode with the OPTIONALITY of having other players (and only from there increase the difficulty we knew) it probably would have worked better. The stupidest mistake? An incomplete story from too many points of view. Invasion is a first chapter without really concluding anything in the lore that has been waiting to start for too many years, this is the problem of that useless “coming soon Talon”.
There is only one point where PVE invasion is better than Archives: the environmental quality is very high: voice acting, cinematics, non-repetitive environments (let’s face it, Storm Rising had too many recycles despite having a great buff in the cinematic part).
The problem is not “archives was better than PVE” because in reality archives had HUGE budget cutting problems (so imagine how they would set it up in a F2P business). The problem is that the PVE formula is completely wrong for the marketing idea they had. The way it is used and sold needs to be revised, but it must be a formula that excites people with a COMPLETE narrative arc. Starcraft 2 is for me the perfect Blizzard example of a game that is valid in both its PVP and its story mode.
Somvra, I think that is your opinion. But my opinion is that Archives WILL return someday.
Blizzard is still thinking how to monetize it.
We need ASAP archives missions again. I miss so much. I was playing in a poor PC in the past now i can play in cloud with good image quality
To be honest the most problem in PVE invasion is about teammate bots, they are useless. They keep following you and don’t fight alone. In easy difficult is “ok”. But in higher difficult is almost impossible to play solo. In the Toronto mission, when you need to defend Claire and Reggie from being captured by the Null Sector, they are on the opposite side of the station area, if the subjugators come one from each side, the bots on your team do nothing to help you. Like they don’t shoot, they don’t move, they just wait for you to do everything.
I get it. If that’s what you think, that’s what you think. I perfer Archives.
Archives coming back in some form would be awesome!
If it came back permanently, even having one card that rotates between the different modes would be preferable to nothing.
I’m just so starved for PvE at this point. Disappointing that it was never given a proper chance on many different levels.
Bumping this thread for extra support on bringing Archives back. Let’s make this a 300-post thread for Archives’ return!
It’s kinda ironic how pve was ditched for the sake of pvp quality and look at what we have now lol.
2 patchs each season, 3 at most… Raid Boss tanks, sombra rampage, lackluster BP’s, lots of grinding and no rewards for putting time in the game.
Yeah, things are going well…
I know! We need these back in some form.