Apex is sinking

OW is sinking, they had to bring back pink mercy to try and stay relevant while lying about having ‘100 million players’.

Bonus: Can’t wait for OW to implement Apexs new bp system described here. Surely that’ll fix the game.

I honestly never cared how expensive cosmetic stuff is in games. F2P devs have access to a relatively small population of whales that open up their wallets, and it’s a science to extract as much money as possible from these people.
If some shiny hat costs $100, it means that it is the optimal price for current population of whales and their economic condition.

The people running these companies are so out of touch that its wild. I want to chase that with a joke, but I can’t. They think charging $70 for unfinished, buggy games is fair play and then have the audacity to ask for money for their DLC.

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Deep Rock Galatic has a 100% free battlepass, and as of season 5, you can select any previous battlepass.

The ONLY paid content are relatively cheap 100% cosmetics.

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Don’t know about that man, it was pretty fun to reach masters on apex, instead of staying plat on ow with 65% winrate.

Apex is just succumbing to the fate of all F2P LiVe sErViCe games very few can survive long term because the business model is unsustainable

Yeah, Helldivers 2 is great.

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If you actually read into the changes, you are actually getting more for less.

  • They have removed most of the crappy under utilized rewards
  • You now get double the Apex Coin than you used to in the single season BP
  • You can earn the first half battle pass free by playing in the first two weeks, if you buy the BP before then, you get 1000 coins refunded

This is mostly all upside except you have to buy the battle-passes with real $ now.

You say that but this is not the first game that has gone to a 2 battle pass per season model. Seems to be a growing trend

Retention is the big keyword and reasoning for the shift. Playerbases dwindle as a season goes on. So whats the solution? Essentially, 2 mini seasons per full season so that people have a reason to stick playing the entire time

The devs justification: you can spend 2x as much money per season and we give you 40% more cosmetics

All of this is just more ways for you to become sunk further into the game and cant leave which is the point

You now have to spend real money every season to participate which means you actually are having a cost associated rather than just some currency leaving your account. Meaning leaving is harder once your in because you’ve already paid

Additionally, because all you are getting back are these coins that you cant put towards next season or cash out, you dont want to just quit and leave all this currency sat there unused. So it keeps you further fixed into the game because you’re sat on $50 of currency so you keep playing because you cant just leave $50 sat there

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why can’t games just give us a self sufficient battle pass like fortnite does (sighs audibly)

i’m not too familiar with that game, but from what i have seen they use the BP just to keep players playing, they get the real money from all the cosmetic sales.

splatoon 3 is somewhat similar, the BP is completely free, they want to keep players active.

Fortnite is a massive cash cow. They can afford to give a little more.

If OW was making more from the IP outside of the game. Maybe they would.

I honestly have not played Fortnite properly in years so I’m not hyper-aware of their current standings but they used to be such an honest game

Maybe they’re just like everyone else now :rofl:

This is the OW forums, not Apex :yawning_face:

Mr Krabs: “Money”

But yeah my buddies and I were all comparing this battle pass change for Apex to OW’s battle pass

WHAT

Dude they are destroying the system, that was literally what kept me playing lol

I didn’t know this was an apex forum