Another rework post for “the DVA”

General Discussion
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Yeah, and also I am. DVA main. But just ignore me cause I am Silver.

But if you think I have a good point then it was worth writing

My reasoning is in short

DVA is too good as a general tank, for a Dive Tank.

I said general tank, but simply saying she can fight pretty well without her mobility.

Like she doesnt feel weak fighting Reinhardt or Zarya or even Roadhog. Her mobility helps ofcourse, but her big head isnt a weakness when fighting melee tanks.

Now this is simple, but fixing this problem is very hard.

If we reduce her hp like Winston(500 hp, good mobility tank example)
It might make her weak against long range heroes she counter like Pharah. So she might need a DM buff actually.

The result I want to make is like Zarya being less used in dive, Dva would be less used outside of Dive.

Even if she is used in GOATs, which makes Rein Zarya more strong against pharah,
The result should make them weak against more tank heavy comps like Roadhog quad tank.
And those heavy comps are weaker against long range and pharah.

This also helps change of meta

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D.Va is fine.
Please don’t turn her into a situational hero.
She does not need this nerf. At all.

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I think the devs should just make tanks more versatile so learning them is less frustrating.

People love D.va because the randomness of the game doesn’t tell you when to pick her.

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There’s is simply no hero who can offer what Dva has to offer.
She’s extremely versatile and fit in most comps.

Doesnt necessarily that she is op and in need of nerfs or a rework.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I want all heroes to be situational, even tanks and healers.

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Sorry but I don’t want to have to master the whole roster because everyone only works in specific scenarios.

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You don’t have to master all. Only a few.
Your teammates can fill the rest.

But this is just my unpopular opinion

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Oh yeah I’ll just cross my fingers that everyone on my team can play the heroes that work in this specific scenario. We already have one tricks. You can’t expect everyone to be able to flex between 10 heroes and play well on them.

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doesnt matter

shes not too good in any way, and she’s especially trash without her boosters

if she has no mobility, then she cant get in close to her targets and deal damage

because youre in silver, where zarya isnt played well most of the time

in higher ranks, a good zarya can make quick work of a d.va

not just that, she’d effectively have 250 hp because over half of her hitbox is her “head”

you can’t nerf her versatility

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Dva is not too good of a hero, she’s paper and any reduction of her actual HP makes her just a horrible hero.

If anything, she needs more armor re-distribution because her critbox hasn’t been reduced but her armor efficiency has been greatly weakened. She might as well be a fat flying Genji that’s the easiest target to hit and feed ulti from.

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It’s just a wish of mine. An unrealistic wish.

One of this game’s selling points was the ability to swap heroes to counter your heroes. But like you said thanks to one tricks (and Maining) is this not always the case.

Still, I would love to see all heroes being situational and players seal when it’s needed.

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No shes not too good.

And how you think im suppose to ignore the fact that youre silver then?

Also you shouldnt be talking about goats, how you would balance the game, etc imo cause goats/3-3 meta isnt used in silver nor lower ranks.
Sure im beeing harsh but this is the truth.

Theres a reason why devs wont take these kind of threads seriously & are balancing this game around pros.

Dva IS FINE. She doesnt need single reworks. Period.

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With the recent changes I think d.va is pretty weak right now.

If her kit wasn’t so unique she would not be seeing very much play time.

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Weak is a bit of a stretch, but yeah if she had any actual competition, she wouldnt be present as much.

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D.va is fine. Thought this trend died a while ago.

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I am not that convinced.
The reality is she is used in any comp. If she was really bad outside of dive she wouldn’t be.

Without mobility I mean she isn’t running away from melee cowardly like Winston. Atleast she is infighting 100 hp more.

If she was that bad at melee, quad tank should melt Dva goats

tldr. DVA pickrate means either DVA is good in multiple comps or DVA is OP. What I am saying is she is good in multiple comps

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I agree, she needs more nerfs. :wink:

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Pickrate is a beyond terrible stat. Why can’t it die off like it should have since the beginning of the game. The fact people continue to preach it like it means alot is a problem. Pickrate ignores so many issues with the game that it amazes me people still try to act like the mean all that much.

Things pickrates ignore:

  1. synergy heroes (aka Pharamercy)
  2. what a team comp is actually trying to do
  3. Roles/subroles and diversity in these
  4. character popularity outside of gamebalance and how it is unquantfiable data point that most certainly does exist and is a non-zero thing
  5. how many counters a hero has outside of the popular ones

I could go on and on all day with more flaws but I think I will stop here for sanity sake.

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Your whole post of how D.Va feels “too strong as on off tank” really just feels like a masked “Make Defense Matrix overpowered again” when I read it. Just saying.

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But also, It can be usefull. You are saying like Police is useless because there are some that do crimes themselves.

So what is more clear? DVA is versatile and good outside of dive
or DVA has some hidden synergy with Zarya? And All Pros have bias to use DVA?

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Well to be honest, I am not sure how to change this.
If DM is buffed, it can still encourage DVA as GOATS tank, But less HP can also make her too weak for dive when she have to compete with Winston Hammond and dive DPS.