Oh that’s BS. He lasts for entirely too long as it is…
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The problem with this change is trying to find something in the rules that explains WHY BOB can’t be slept and other omnics like Bastion can. It makes a certain level of sense with Zenyatta’s Transcendence since he’s immune to most everything, but it doesn’t quite make any sense why BOB gets to be immune to sleep and yet other crowd control effects work on him.
If Ana can’t sleep B.O.B. then Baptiste’s immortality field shouldn’t be able to safe his team from D.Va bomb. In other words, that’s ridiculous. Counterplay is what a game full of abilities is about. If it shuts you down, bait it out.
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Could we just have the game make sense and have some consistency?
B.O.B. gets sleep immunity but other Omnics don’t?
So we just treat him just like a turret now?
Then he shouldn’t get to contest/capture objectives nor move the payload. Or Zen, Bastion, and Orisa should get immunity, too. 
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Bob off screen is drinking omnic coffee™
Worst thing about bob is how ashe is capable of gaining ult charge while he’s up, but no one else does from damaging or healing him.
I mean really, you made something with that much health and such an annoying aimbot ability and then you don’t even allow us to gain ult charge from him? We can gain ult charge from winston so I don’t understand this duality.
Simply change most of his health to armor so he can have less health and we’re still able to gain ult charge from him, right now it’s a big waste of time trying to deal with him.
He should be able to get slept by ana as well, this blatant change won’t fix ashe’s issues, I wonder who they are listening to in order to make such changes.
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Why is it that people want to just be able to throw their ults in for guaranteed profit? If the enemy Ana is wrecking your BOB you have four options:
- Bait the Sleep Dart, it has an obvious sound cue (and visuals if it connects)
- Throw BOB on Ana herself, makes it much harder to hit him and is likely to take a good chunk of her health
- Ask a friendly Zarya/Rein/Orisa/Sigma/DVA for some protection
- If none of the above works you switch because you are being countered
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Bob is easy to deal with… you literally just kill him. He’s a stationary target with a massive hitbox. Any game above plat bob dies within 1 second… I wish I was joking.
On top of that he can shoot the most random objects (like shooting Hammond mines instead of the enemy team… thanks bob). Lol
As a massive stationary turret, it’s not really hard for Ana to just shut him down. It’s fair to shut down a mccrees ult because his hitbox is smaller and the shot is harder and therefore rewarded. But bob is just bob. Essentially a big torb turret with extremely projected movements. So why should ana sleep him for free and shut down a whole ult?
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I would be fine with sleep dart not being able to sleep Bob if they didn’t make turrets, sentries and D.va bombs sleepable in the recent patch. Talk about consistency.
Maybe its just too good making Ashe’s ult nigh useless so they are trying it out. Of course it is good, it might be just too good for the game… its this thing called “balancing”.
Ana shuts down Pharahs ult. And she’s even easier to hit being stationary in the sky. If sleep dart can sleep players, and Bob was intended to be treated the same way as a player (bubble, beat, heals), then it also should have the same interaction with sleep dart. This is about consistency.
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Good point - my only thought would be that Pharah has far more control of her use of her ult than Ashe does with a BOB deployment. Ashe doesn’t even get to say prioritize with surprise fire on a potential Ana target, Bob simply is a turret firing on what’s close so you have to be lucky and predict on top…
They are making him immune to sleep ?
Ehehehe …
Sure make a great ult even greater while Sigma is still Sigma. Good job.
I think zen and bastion should be immune too. Consistency anyone ?
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Bob deployment control is just fine to me, as an Ashe player myself. Those clips where people mess up their Bob placement are just memes, most of the time he’s very useful to simply make space just as you would a D.va bomb. Send him in the backline of the enemies, and tell your Winston to jump on the Ana to bait the sleep. Or heck, call for a Zarya bubble just like you would a Pharah/McCree ult. Counter play is one thing that makes this game great, straight up removing a common interaction as a form of “buffing” a character is just lazy, imo.
If Ashe ever needs buff, it should NOT be on her lowest skill ceiling areas. Dynamite and Bob are already enough for that. Reduce or rework her clunky reload mechanic, which is the main reason she’s not used in the top tiers. A low magazine Ashe is just a fish on the land.
I agree to a point, I was quire heavy on Ashe for some time, and also as a Zarya player I am all down and Bubbling BOB. the point is some mechanics counter just too easily, and at high tiers its reputedly almost impossible to get any value out of BOB because Ana just shuts him down too easily. Frankly I think BOB simply needs a health buff which was long rumored.
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That would also be fine. He’s very easily bursted down if focused. Oh, I should also note: what happens to pins and boops? If those work and sleep doesn’t… that would just be weird, no?
I honestly was surprised it was part of the XP card it felt a bit too “niche” for time in it as I doubt it would ever go live. What BOB might be better of with would be perhaps incorporating Rein’s passive since his positional deployment is so key… that would have been my preference.
Then let Ana sleep all turrets.
Let genji deflect rock. (If it’s a projectile, he should be able to. Or if it’s a deployable like ‘Immortality field‘/TP/turrets, then give it hp and let it be destroyable).
Let matrix eat rock (if it’s considered a projectile).
Don’t let doom punch through shields (brig can’t bash through it).
Don’t let Moira’s orbs/ult go through shields (no other orbs or ults or abilities can).
Don’t let Mercys beams go through shields (like all other beams).
Don’t let sombra completely shut off Lucio aura with hack (since it’s not a controlled by an ability press).
Make junkrat take damage from his own nades (like pharah and solider, or make them both immune too).
Stop mccree from being able to cancel his ult or let everyone cancel their ult.
There’s a lot of ‘inconsistencies’ in overwatch. It’s why the game has such a steep learning curve for beginners.
I’m not truly for or against it. From my experience playing Ashe, it won’t really effect me either way. More just be like a QOL lol
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She actually can now. She can sleep Torb Turret, Symm’s Sentries, and even stop D.va bomb mid air (yes you read that right). Besides that, Bob was always supposed to be treated like a player (said so by Jeff himself in Ashe’s introduction), not an object.
For the other stuff you mentioned, most of them I do agree but that’s out of this discussion.
For the record, I am also an Ashe player, and while I accept all buffs, efforts should be made on fixing her clunky reload, not this.
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