How the hell do you kill these two, let alone their teammates? When they’re together, they do not die at all. The minute you try to isolate them, they back each other up and since their survivability is so high, they prolong the fight just enough for their teammates to run and peel for them. You literally have less than 6 seconds to kill these two or they will not die.
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Nothing is inherently toxic. Don’t act like Noob3, please.
Ana and Kiriko is what you get when you play the two most overtuned Supports. You can still do things with them though. Tracer and Genji can make them focus on them to keep all heals from the enemy team, for example. You don’t have to kill to counter.
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I’m playing tank. How does a tank, with questionable DPS who are always focused on shooting the biggest target, kill those two?
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Why are you trying to go for the Supports on Tank? The DPS are what you really want to take care of. Unless you’re Ball or Doom, in which case you can literally kill them both when they’re pocketing each other.
Show me clips of you bullying an Ana and Kiriko backline with Ball or Doom and I’ll give you $1,000.
Isn’t the point of this game to not die? So being good = toxic?
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If you can’t kill a Kiriko and Ana as the Tanks with some of the lowest TTKs in the game, I doubt you’re resourceful enough to even make $1,000.
I don’t record my games on Ball. Only Tracer.
You’ll see when you play on PC how toxic those two are, and how dumb some DPS can be.
It’s a strong mix for sure, Ana’s been on the line for a nerf but Blizzard really respects the elderly. Kiriko is too busy riding her bike to get nerfed sadly.
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Ana alone is my nightmare. If I get slept, tea-bagged, anti, and shot 3 times before I stand back up again, I’ll sign myself up for therapy.
Ana has been a nightmare for MANY people for years. Most of the time her nerfs are slaps on her teeny grandma wrists. I personally don’t have issues with her but i do understand she’s creating problems with the new 5v5 format and should be properly adjusted much like how Zen is finally getting a discord nerf.
Tanks were supposed to carry the only hard CC in the game but apparently Ana is above the rules lol
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Again, nothing is inherently toxic. And PC and console are not as different as you think.
Everyone knows some DPS are dumb. But why should you win with bad teammates? A bad team sucks to get, but winning with them against a good team means that the one or two good players just invalidated 5. Which means something is overpowered or someone is smurfing.
I do think its a toxic cycle.
If the enemy team has an Ana, you NEED to pick Kiriko.
If the enemy team has a Kiriko, you WANT a Ana to bait out the Suzu so you can ult with Rein
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Kiriko is played when Ana gets played because Kiriko is the only counter to anti heal on the support roster. Anti is the disease, Kiriko is the symptom.
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Definitely true. But it’s also true that they’re both the most overtuned 
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Kiriko is good, but after her nerfs I’d say she’s pretty much on par with the other supports.
Having a kill denied by suzu feels bad, but so does immortality field, and that lasts way longer.
When other Supports are busted too, that doesn’t make her ok. Kiriko is still a top 2 or 3 pick, and not just because of Ana. Her healing is good, her damage is good, Suzu is bs, her teleport is a get of of jail free card that honestly shouldn’t even exist…etc.
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Go check her pick rate on Overbuff. It’s lower and lower the higher you go. Ana and Mercy are #1 or #2, swapping depending on skill tier. She doesn’t ever crack the top 3.
That’s because mirror matchups don’t count in stats. Widow is low for the same reason even though she’s completely broken.