All dev responses - Mauga AMA

Think these are all the responses given…enjoy!


Hello and thank you for organizing this AMA. I’ve appreciated the communication around Overwatch 2; it’s been positive. I have a specific query about Wrecking Ball. During Flats’ stream with Alec, there was a mention of ongoing changes for him. The past two reworks have truly improved gameplay, and as a Wrecking Ball main, I’m eagerly anticipating potential alterations. Could you provide further details on the timeline for these changes and perhaps delve into the specific plans for modifying his abilities?

Alec - We playtested a first round of Wrecking Ball changes last week and think it’s off to a good start. Overall, we are looking at making it a bit easier to play alongside Wrecking Ball with various support heroes, increase Ball’s options in combat, and implement some quality of life changes.

In terms of timeline, it depends on how far we go with some of the changes and what’s required there. It could end up as a bigger balance patch, it could end up with giving Wrecking Ball a new ability. Right now though, I think it’ll lean closer to the first and not need the same sort of support that Roadhog and Sombra needed. Hopefully get something out there in the next few seasons.

With Mauga’s release, there were a few other balance changes like Queen’s tighter spread, and Rammatra’s armor. Were these changes made with Mauga’s tank busting in mind? (for example leaving Roadhog and Rienhardt unchanged to see match up data) Or independently planned changes prior to his release?

Alec - We wanted to lift up some other tanks that we knew would have a particularly hard time with Mauga, but the changes themselves weren’t necessarily tied to their direct matchup with Mauga. The change to Doomfist’s Ultimate for example was something we believed would help players engage with it more regularly, the change to Winston’s primary fire helps him in a number of matchups.

For Roadhog, we saw internally that he had quite a hard time with Mauga so even though he had been performing quite well across our rank thresholds, we decided to hold off on any changes. How Roadhog slots into the meta will be made more clear with upcoming Mauga changes and Mauga’s inclusion into Competitive.

Have you considered retouching some of the visuals of effects in the game? There was recently a post showing an Orisa who was burned, nanoed, and at least one other thing and it was extremely hard to tell the difference at times. In addition to this Mauga’s bullets tend to “splash” on the victim’s screen and in addition to the burning makes it very difficult to see at times.

Alec - As we inevitably add more heroes to the game, with their own set of abilities and visual kits, we’ll continue to look at past vfx and new vfx to make sure they all play nicely together.

We always strive for clarity but the Orisa post was a great example of how it can be difficult to read some of those stacking effects. Team is currently talking about solutions for that and hears the feedback on the readability for some of Mauga’s abilities.

Idk if this will be seen but, I know it was mentioned that there are a certain number of heroes that the team is looking at for reworks or kit tune ups. You mentioned Wrecking Ball as being at the top of that list. Is Reaper being looked at for a rework at all? I love his current kit but he does seem prime for a rework since he has an available ability slot.

And then on an unrelated note: any plans for a Talon Heavy themed Mauga skin? I would love to have that one.

Thanks for taking the time to do the Q&A!

Alec - Reaper is also on that list! Had our first brainstorm and have aligned on our overall goals for what we want to see with Reaper’s abilities. One of those goals is modernizing Reaper’s kit, Shadow Step and Wraith Form standing out there.

We may also explore some new abilities for Reaper (on the right-click), but don’t want to take the space just because it’s available. If we add something there, we’ll want it to give him slightly more decision making in-combat than he has currently.

Can we get more details on the hero bans system you are looking at? Would it be a single ban per team? Or would we get one for each role? Would there also be protects? I’ve always loved the idea and I think it’s great you’re giving it a chance!

Alec - Want to clarify here that the first time we do this it will be for a limited time as an experiment. With that said, we’re still discussing how exactly it will work in the match flow and where we put this experiment. Should everyone get a ban against one hero in their role? Should this experiment actually run in competitive for a weekend or should it get its own queue? How long is this phase before you select heroes, how much time does a team need to feel like they are strategizing but not so long it significantly increases the match length?

Those are the sorts of questions we talk about in our design meetings around this. I think any sort of ban system in Overwatch has the chance to be fairly polarizing, especially when your main gets banned. The point of the experiment will be to gather some initial feedback and make sure that if we ever move forward with permanently adding bans, we’ve covered all our bases.

What hero has the most amount of final blows on Mauga?

Alec - Two Maugas enter a Cage Fight, one leaves? both leave? There’s a lot of Mauga right now, more than any other hero. He’s responsible for many deaths, even his own.

How is Mauga performing in each rank? Higher or lower then expected? Granted it is very early, but I’m just curious

Throwing this on here late, but is it intended that health packs don’t stop maugas burn? Considering it stops other damage over time effects it kind of throws me off

Alec - Very well at all rank thresholds, one of the reasons we are putting out some initial changes today to lower his damage output (which also affects his sustain).

During the BlizzCon trial Mauga was actually performing much better than community perception, but there were some issues with his survivability and things like his head hitbox size. We pushed him a bit further with the understanding that we would act quick if things weren’t in line with our overall balance goals. Today’s nerfs should give us a better look at where he will end up once he enters Competitive.


What are some plans to curb back Mauga’s ability to punish enemy Tanks? It’s one of the less-interesting portions of his kit but also one of the biggest things making him so strong right now.

Josh - Mauga is intended to be an aggressive, high damage output tank as he offers less in defense to his team compared with other tank options and doesn’t have great mobility. We’re lowering Mauga’s weapon damage in general which will help with some of this where it can feel extreme at times.

He has good and bad matchups within the tank role, which is great for creating some depth, so it’s not necessarily a role-wide problem. Sigma/Dva match up well and have an advantage against him, Roadhog/Junkerqueen/Ramattra are fairly even matchups, Zarya/Rein can do decently but require more support from their team, and Mauga is strongest against the dive tanks and Orisa.

I really enjoy Mauga’s “dual” guns gameplay. Setting people on fire with one gun and getting to crit with the other is very fun. Unfortunately it feels like the best way to play Mauga is to shoot both guns at the same time, making his interesting gameplay mechanic an afterthought.

Are there any plans to incentivize Mauga’s alternating gun gameplay?

Josh - We’ll have to see how this develops over time as there’s always a learning curve for new heroes. Shooting both guns is not always more effective due to the large spread and more random nature of it. Learning when to use each firing mode to your advantage is part of the fun. Generally if enemies are further than 15 meters or so you’ll want to use the alternating primary/secondary fire.

Could you tell us some of the scrapped or early abilities you had for mauga?

Just like how you showed us illari abilities that were scrapped, I would love to see what ideas you had early on for mauga

Josh - Game design goes through a lot of iteration to find the most engaging combination of mechanics within the scope of our goals. We naturally try a lot of prototype variations even with a strong starting idea.

We tried a few alternate mobility abilities for Overrun. One of the first ideas was a short range dash that would toss enemies into the air behind him if you impacted them. It was fun to use but the transition from third person to first person and trying to turn around to shoot them wasn’t easy, and solutions like automatically doing a 180 with the camera took away control from players.

The weapons had a couple alternates such as a flamethrower or incendiary grenade launchers. There were a few attempts at having two very different firing weapons in each hand, so one being hitscan like it is now and the other being a travel time projectile. It didn’t play as well when trying to fire both at the same time unfortunately, especially in versions where they have different firing rates and how you want to aim travel time projectiles by leading a target, and tracking the ammo pools separately is difficult.

The Cage Fight ultimate was pretty successful from the start, but we still tried other versions to see what would play best. It was a physical wall instead of a barrier at one point. There was also a completely different ult that was more of an area effect debuff to enemy damage dealt, the opposite of damage boost.

mauga’s ult is pretty interesting in that almost nothing can escape from it- afaik, the only ways out are sym TP and lifeweaver pull (also emp if you count that as “escaping”)- how does the team determine which abilities can “counter” which ults? is it more about consistency between ults, the power levels of each ability, the heroes that are likely to be played in matchups, technical limitations of the game, or is it a little less premeditated and a little more played by ear?

Josh - This is usually trying to be consistent with game mechanics. We do make exceptions when necessary for the sake of game balance, but the less often we need to do that the easier it is for players to learn and understand these many interactions across multiple heroes.

Mauga’s ultimate tethers are applying what we internally call “Mobility Lock” which disables movement skills. Other things that use this mobility lock are Junkrat Steel Trap, Cassidy Magnetic Grenade hinder effect, Zarya and Sigma ultimates. For gameplay consistency, you should be able to use Symmetra Teleporter and Lifeweaver’s Lifegrip against those abilities.

There’s a lot of discussion right now around the way that Mauga was buffed coming into the live game, specifically how he became more oppressive against his good matchups, and still gets shut down with relative ease by certain heroes in the cast. I personally find this balance philosophy dangerous, as it sidelines possible adaptation against bad matchups in favor of enabling the “hard counterswap” mindset. I don’t think there should be no counters, having varying matchups is what makes a balanced game fun, but it feels a little extreme right now.

I’m really unsure what changes could alleviate this issue - what tools does the balance team use to evaluate matchups between heroes, and which knobs do you twist to change the way a game feels from each hero’s perspective?

Josh - An important aspect of our hero design philosophy is that heroes should have clear strengths and weaknesses to create more varied and interesting gameplay. When we look to buff a hero for example, we want to keep this in mind and typically try to focus on a heroes intended strengths rather than clearing away their weaknesses.

We do want to avoid counters being too easy and effective without adequate counterplay options. There is a broad goal of making sure every hero choice is viable in some capacity and feels good to play, while hopefully not feeling too unfair to play against.

Some direct matchups are not reasonably close, like Winston vs Roadhog, but we don’t strictly balance off of 1v1 matchups as Overwatch is a team game (Winston has a good chance to win by going after everyone that is not Roadhog for example).

Generally we’ve found that when the heroes are balanced closely enough, individual player performance and teamwork has significantly more impact on the outcome of a match than hero choice does, until you reach the highest levels of competition.


What are the team’s thoughts on Mauga’s Cardiac Overdrive currently? It often feels like he is too tanky when the ability’s active but too fragile when it’s inactive/countered, along with the visual effects being hard to discern at times.

Tess - We are reducing his damage, and those changes went live in this morning’s hotfix patch. This change will inadvertently affect how much life steal he receives during Cardiac Overdrive, making him a little less tanky.

Thoughts on potentially swapping his miniguns from ammo to a heat system like Orisa?

Tess - Right now, there’s not a strong desire to potentially make such a swap. Heat systems give significantly more damage uptime compared to traditional ammo systems. They’re functionally just a constant reload you can cancel at anytime, unless you hit 0 ammo. The reload time gives players a window of opportunity to avoid his fire.

Mauga seems very feast or famine at the moment – when he works, he works really well, but when he doesn’t work, he’s basically useless. He also demands a lot of attention from his support line, to the point that it feels like you have to healbot him or else he’ll evaporate the instant you look away. Has the team noticed similar patterns in their data?

The way Mauga was designed invites players to get up into the thick of the fight all together with his team. Overrun encourages players to land directly on top of their opponents and his dual-fire mode is more effective at close ranges. Cardiac Overdrive and Cage Fight invite his teammates to stay close to him to take advantage of their defensive benefits. This can cause Mauga’s to go into a lot of situations that are more precarious and will result in him struggling if his team isn’t on the same page. Mauga’s abilities are versatile and have uses in situations where they don’t get full value. Overrun, for example, lets players run away from a fight with damage resistance, so they can poke from farther away with alternating his single-fire chain guns. As time goes on and players explore Mauga’s kit more, more nuanced uses of his abilities should hopefully make playing as him less polarizing. His abilities also have a lot of tuning points in regards to both how he helps himself and how he helps his teammates, so there’s plenty of room to change his numbers as he develops in the future.


Off topic, but what are the ideas that are internally being kicked around for Wrecking Ball? I understand he’s being looked at for changes.

Jodie - I want to echo some of Alec’s response above!

We’re looking at making it a bit easier to play alongside Wrecking Ball with various support heroes, increase Ball’s options in combat, and implement some quality of life changes.

1 - Do u think Mauga’s current playstyle is healthy for the game ? (I’m talking about shooting the enemy Tank the whole game to self sustain urself which is boring and requires no skill) .

2 - Do u think the self sustain part in his kit (self heal and OverHealth through constant dmg) may needs some fundamental changes in the future ?

Jodie - I think Tess goes into some of your questions about Cardiac Overdrive. The life steal from the ability is going to be less now that his damage has been lowered. :smiley:

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This is a disappointing answer. Mauga gets countered by tanks who stay out of his range and avoid making plays. They’ve reduced his damage, but ultimately this doesn’t make him counter tanks less, it just makes him a worse character. He’ll be even more reliant on farming tanks now that his damage and resulting lifesteal is lower. I’m not thrilled with the direction they’re going.

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there was another player comment/reply i saw to that particular response which i thought was funny…

basically:

Sigma/Dva match up well and have an advantage against him

and just a few words later…

and Mauga is strongest against the dive tanks and Orisa

i have questions…

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I think what they’re basically saying is that defense matrix is good against Mauga, which is sort of the issue I have. To play D.Va against him you become a matrix bot, playing Reinhardt you become a shield bot, and playing Rammatra you hold back and avoid using his Nemesis form. You don’t kill Mauga, you block him. It’s just not fun.

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Well he is a “brawl” tank. The best counter to any brawl comp is to keep your distance. (or play brawl better).

So it makes sense poke tanks like Sigma, and higher mobility like D.Va would match up well against him.

Very cash money of you Baja. :ok_hand:

if only there was actual money involved… :sweat_smile:

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So are Reinhardt, Ramattra, and Orisa, yet it feels bad to play any of those three into him. It’s not necessarily that they can’t beat him, it’s that the gameplay loops he’s created aren’t enjoyable.

If played right, he is the best brawl option, that is for sure.

But at least there are options. I think I’ll go for D.Va, find Sigma and poke in general really boring to play.

On wrecking ball: I really hope they look to replace his adaptive shields.

Its an ability that really gatekeeps his viability as it exists now.

Can we get more details on the hero bans system you are looking at? Would it be a single ban per team? Or would we get one for each role? Would there also be protects? I’ve always loved the idea and I think it’s great you’re giving it a chance!

Who ever asked this thinks “counters” are the reason for why they lose all their games.

And then on an unrelated note: any plans for a Talon Heavy themed Mauga skin? I would love to have that one.

Sad they didn’t answer this part of the Q&A.

Pretty sure they only meant DM was good against Mauga; but D. Va being a dive tank means she’s still a bad matchup against him. She can’t hold DM up forever and will never be able to outdamage him.

It’s about. damn. time.

props for this, really useful thread so I dont have to search through reddit for half an hour

So more homogenization is coming because of this garbage 5v5 format. Reaper, Hammond, and Cree are on the chopping block next. Such an amazing game /s.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t really consider D.Va a dive tank in 5v5. The tanks I’m always looking to run Tracer or Sombra with are Doom, Winston and Ball. There’s a huge mobility gap between D.Va and them. They’re designed specifically to dive into the enemy backline, whereas D.Va is usually yelled at for it. :sweat_smile:

I personally view D.Va as more of a specifically highground-oriented tank. She’s THE highground tank to me. When I’m playing her, my #1 focus is taking highgrounds and using them to safely offangle. I’ll only jump down in enemy territory if I see a REALLY good opportunity, like finishing off an Ana while her team is distracted or something

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Yeah I try to do the same. Even if my team isn’t with me, it works great and I can still put DM between them and the enemy.