i said truth. OP said truth. That’s all.
You are free to believe that.
There is no evidence, or business case, or anything actually tangible that supports their claim though.
So, based on what data and information is actually out there, plus my own experiences of playing the game… He’s talking nonsense.
there are, but you just do not want to accept it.
Which rank?
Why would I just accept it? I read it, checked it, and realised it was nonsense.
Not sure rank is relevant… But between Gold and Master depending on role or mode.
tell me you are bronze without telling me you are bronze. conversation over.
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Ive become such a horrible reader!
where is the superhero leaker?maybe waiting for ppl to finish reading so they can act.
ive become such slower a reader after tictoc exposure this OP would be a daytrip.
social engineering in a video game!!! eeeew! no!!
I shouldn’t be forced to teach lockdown hookie kids to benefit some dellusion of the project paperclip gang.
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Project Paperclip?! Precisely how far-reaching do you suppose this conspiracy is if you are tying it back to the aftermath of World War II?
I was talking about the mathematical principles underlying competitive ranking algorithms and pointing out that those principles don’t suddenly become problematic simply because Overwatch uses them. I’m honestly unsure what you are talking about.
goes at least as far as the white houses dealer.
my intent was to discredit your credits toward academia on the basis of them facilitating paperclip
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That’s pretty silly though, right? A lot has happened in the last 70+ years. If your standard practice is to say that anytime an organization (or institution or whatever, you are actually citing a bunch of different institutions here from more than 70 years ago) did something bad 70+ years ago it means that anything they do now is discredited, you are basically going to have to discredit everything. Which is certainly one way to try to evaluate the merits of any given thing, but I think you can probably see why it’s not a good way to evaluate the merits of any given thing.
im a silly goose like gallileo. you shouldn’t be surprised to find that life is hard and you can’t always just be “good.” nor should use good and easy interchangibly.
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Certainly, which is why we use the best methods at our disposal rather than discarding them in favor of worse options. Thus, most people/organizations will use the best method available, which is why it becomes the standard unless and until some better method is discovered.
The problem we run into most often in these sorts of threads is that some people who don’t understand the principles underlying things like the current best methods for competitive ranking algorithms and who would like to believe that their performance is dictated by factors outside their control will, in the absence of any real expertise, fill in the gaps in their expertise with conspiracy theories that allow them to absolve themselves of responsibility for their performance.
validation of skill differentials in the context of personal egos misconflated with gaining better intel.
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I mean, it is generally difficult for those who are unskilled to evaluate skill differentials. That is, it is easier for Lebron James to recognize basketball skill or the lack thereof than some random person who has never played basketball at a better than average level.
Having said that, I do think the ability to recognize skill differentials can be learned, even by those who do not possess any high degree of skill in a particular area. We have seen those, for instance, who at one time bought into the various Overwatch matchmaker conspiracies learn that the reality was simply that their personal skill was lower than they thought.
Usually this happens when one undertakes some sort of more objective approach to ascertaining the skill differentials- either through challenging higher rated players to contests of skill or through studying the matches of higher rated players or through receiving coaching and noting their improvement.
It’s just that, as earlier stated, most people who buy into these conspiracy theories do so because their root goal is to absolve themselves of responsibility for their performance, so they are not likely to undertake any sort of rigorous exploration of the skill differentials, because they understand on some level that doing so will not meet their root goal. (There’s also a certain amount of survivor’s bias- anyone who does undertake a more rigorous study will no longer believe the conspiracy theories, etc.)
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Its a personal opinion, not a fact. Some people might like a free for all with no match maker but that doesnt mean it would definitely be better for everyone.
It would actually screw over a lot of people too, especially people with below average skill. OP has a habit of posting biased personal opinions as though they are absolute facts, when they are not
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Well it’s pretty much know fact across all blizzard platforms, like heartshtone, overwatch and other games.
Rigged games for losers to have a chance. Otherwise imagine if they would lose all the time with no chance to win? Would anyone be interested in playing and paying?
This may not be accurate for premade groups because they already communicate, but for solo and duo groups it is 100% accurate. games are rigged before they even start.
You get in your team bad players, in enemy team good players.
For e.g. as support, i do more damage then dps, tank and double healing then other support YET we lose. So it’s my problem to improve? No, rigged matchmaking.
TEAM based game. even -1 guy underperforming = rip for your team.
Maybe in season 9 they addressing this issue, so let’s hope for better times then this bad and rigged system we got now.
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It never forces you to win or lose, it makes every game in its eyes a 40-60% chance. It doesnt care if you are on win or loss streaks, every match is just 40-60%(in its eyes)
Its not perfect in those odds and never can be. Calling it “rigged” is wrong headed. Its what it needs to be to get matches going and ow is also prone to stomps when the odds were close.
The match maker cant stop this from happening, people under preform sometimes
If there were no match maker than anyone below average skill would have it worse than they do now
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it’s just your opinion.
match making should be based on your personal rating which would be displayed on
score screen.
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It is just their opinion. But their opinion also mirrors reality.
Agree. Instead it is based on your personal rating that you don’t see.
My question is… if you could see it, then what would you do. You wouldn’t be able to check it against others as the vast majority of profiles are private. And even then, what would you do. What would you blame next.
rating should and must be visible to everyone in the scoreboard. So we can see against who we are being matched for FAIR games, not rigged ones like now with hidden sr and mmr.
Also, profiles should be public not private. there are no personal info attached to it, except your gaming stats.
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Whilst I agree it would be nice to see…
This isn’t a thing. So I am not sure what you’d learn, other than the riggists were wrong all along.
I certainly think there is a better solution that current. But if my profile is open, people just hard counter me from the start… I’d like at least 1 fight having fun first.