Algorithmic Handicapping (MMR) is Wrong for Overwatch

bump. Hopefully microsoft becomes aware of how many players the matchmaking has driven away and decides to do something about it.

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TLDR you are mad you can’t be boosted, mmr keeps noobs from being boosted.

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i am so fed up with this forced to lose matchmaking that i want stop playing.

bronze tank today was matched vs master tank, guess what happened? Me and my brother were 2 people and 3 were underperforming heavily, while enemy team just stomped them.

This happens every single day. either you stomp or enemy team stomps. No balanced game, no balanced teams. Not to mention every third game we have aimbots in enemy team.

I wonder why i do not any aimboters in my team ever? Always in enemy team for a FORCED loss.

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Did not happen.

Unless you can show the game, plus the profiles, this simply didn’t happen.

Forced results aren’t a thing.

Forced results arent a thing, anticipated results are…

I know whats worst out of these options. Having no anticipation, and there is a stomp. Or have a predicted outcome and have stomps.

They seriously need to do some A/B testing… so they can actually prove their theories.

It’s not like Overwatch is some outlier here though. There’s a reason these systems are used across the board when they can be (including in the admissions exams used by top tier graduate schools.)

Roku comment.!!!

Forced results and forced losses (multiple losses might i add) IS DEFINITLY a thing. If you dont think so, you are a troll, or a newbie

“Agree with the conspiracy theory or you are trolling”.

Erm, no thanks. Forced results have never been a thing.

You can’t even give a sensible and logical explanation as to why they would have forced results. Where’s the business case for it.

Now factor in Smurfs hackers and those playing other roles when they are GM, or Masters already in a role not currently being played.

If its actively pushing you toward a 50/50 win loss then of course its a thing.

Good job it isn’t then.

Yes it is.

you are just an idiot, who keep defending forced loss matchmaking.

overwatch 2- rigged matchmaking, to make forced win/loss

hearthstone- rigged matchmaking to keep certain win rate and mmr, forced win/loss same like ow2.

world of warcraft - arena/rbg is based on RATING not hidden trash mmr. At this is actually good because you are never matched vs higher skilled players, you are matched vs same skill people and RATING.

Also in overwatch 2 it is ridiculous that you can be matched within 2 divisions of you rank. Not to mention that to make queues shorter you can be matched vs anyone.

This stupid hidden mmr must go and we should get rating based on win/loss.

This feels like irony…

There is no rigged match making.

MMR has been hidden for 7+ years… if it was actually problematic, I wouldn’t be hidden anymore…

But, instead of you throwing insults and trying to argue something that doesn’t exist exists… Answer me this one simpleish question…

What would be the business case for doing it.

i can not explain or argue with someone who went to The everglades. I do not have that low brain capacity to explain for your lvl of understanding.

You’re blocked.

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See, you went for insults, instead of just coming up with even a rudimentary business reason for doing something.

But you subscribe to a conspiracy theory with zero legs…

Read OP, it is explained. Or go again and try finish The Everglades.

and i am not insulting you. Just told you the truth.

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Yeah. I read it when it was first posted. There was no legs then, and everything that as happened since, hasn’t given it any ground to be believed.

So, I ask again, what do YOU believe is the business case for such actions.

Also, consider this. IF this was true it would be quite controversial, even possible legal issues. Now, IF it was happening, pretty much everyone (past and present) at Blizzard would be aware of this. Some disgruntled employee or ex-employee would have leaked it at some point… Yet there is nothing. Not a whisper. The only talk of it are the tiny population of players on forums, living in an echo chamber.

that not my belief it is reality.

It is true and no legal issues in USA. Maybe in EU and even then they would have some workaroud thing to make it “legal”.

Single person without power can not fight alone world wide gaming platform. People need unite.

Yes, they will say that matchmaking is based on mmr/sr but truth is it is RIGGED. Game is most of time already decided before it even started.

They removed sr and mmr ratings in stats at your rank, why? To hide that matches are rigged, to make shorter queues and make forced win/loss to keep 50% win rate.

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You seem to have misread that.

What do you believe is the business case.

So where is that single employing leaking it…

lol

Why? It was a cosmetic thing, SR and MMR are still operating in the same way underneath, they just tried to put a dress on it, but the dress didn’t fit.

My win rates aren’t 50%.

This season (smaller sample size admittedly), my win rates are 100%, 100%, 100%, 75%, 64%, 55% and 5% (played Rein once, lost)

Last season
14 hours of Ball, 57%
3 hours of Sym, 73%