AI Athena talk to players in spawn room and advice strats

Would be fun if athena could be connected to one of those llms and trained with a bit overwatch strats and have her make comments on enemy team strength and weakness whenever players are in spawn after a round or after being killed.

Especially make her remind players of current players left and tell them to rg.

We can even cheat a bit by letting athen tell what enemy team is doing for a bit in voice so people dont rush in and stagger when your tank is getting ulted alone etc.

This wont be expensive like normal models which are based on player interaction like text chat or voice chat, but more based on being able to read the game state points which im sure blizzard would have marked already .

May be even have her whiper rarely to a support that someone is in need of healing .

or tell a dps to peel for a support etc

nothing overbearing and we can always make a option to turn this off for players like hint system and leave only the spawn room interactions available.

Maybe even make her display a hud in spawn with stats and analysis.

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ew no. keep AI out of gaming, and everything non essential in general. if I was getting stomped and heard a wobbly ai voice say “maybe you should try another team comp?” i would quit lol

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100%

AI needs to get yeeted out of gaming and anyone who advocates for AI having a bigger role in it needs to stay silent.

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I can predict the AI would also look into your stats and personal data.

Yep, thats a huge no no for me already.

Keep AI off gaming (or should i say: everything)

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I mean this with as little offense as possible, but this has to be one of your worst takes Nerf haha.

I guess to be more constructive, I don’t want AI in gaming. I’m certain as time goes on it will be used more to make the process of developing games quicker. But it’s like trying to fit the square peg into the circle hole. It’s not the right or even good tool for the job. Especially at its current stage. I don’t think I could trust it to give actual useful information I don’t already know, or for it to be accurate.

I also think gaming should be a medium for artistic expression. I know that probably means very little for OW or OW players in general, but I think the act of developing and producing a game is art. I think relying on AI cheapens the experience and lowers the overall quality.

In short, no. I do not want AI in this game, or any other besides the more traditional AI used for NPCs or enemies. Not as AI currently is, and I would want to be sure that it’s not being used as a shortcut but rather being used to enhance the experience (which granted, I think that was your intent here). Until then, I will be against AI within gaming period. That’s of course not getting into the other moral quandries that AI presents.

I mean athena is a AI lol

so you are ok with having a human immitate a AI

but dont want a actual AI be a AI

can we not be dogmatic about things for once and do things on actual basis, were its useful to us as a gameplay tool .

:joy:

AI is going to drench gaming how much ever you jump or shout, why not find ways were its useful for us and incentivize it.

Yes. Unironically yes man. This is not a good idea for the reasons I stated amongst the host of other moral issues people have with current AI. As it is now, it is not a good tool to do what you’re hoping for it to do and presents a multitude of other issues.

I’m clearly well aware that it’s going to be used. I think how it’s being used is important.

As a player I would hate this. I don’t want an AI telling me to swap my hero. Or to tell me what enemies are up to. It sounds both intrusive and isn’t worth opening the doors to using AI for big game features. I don’t even like that OW2 spawn room dialog lasts for 50 out of 45 seconds before a round starts, preventing anyone from ever USING voice lines. I will never bite for this idea.

It already does there is a menu option for it you can turn on .

Except we are just changing it from being gong alarm sound to a in ear helper like diana in hitman or something.

Heck it would be cool to make echo generate her own voicelines

Im all for using AI for actual AI themed characters in a fun way.

It’s not a critical feature so it can be tried out for fun and improved on.

I will tell you how people are you will replace god with AI oneday.

Heck most people would be cool ranting to athena than teammates.

Also imagine being discriminating to omnics as a overwatcher :joy::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Unless LLMs are lying and outsmarting all their users/creators, no AI is on the level of an omnic yet. Checkmate, NerfTheist

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Agreed, keep GENERATIVE A.I out of gaming

AI has been in gaming for literal decades lol.

Luddites gonna luddite.

This was the same discrimination that start null sector wars.

this is how rammatra was born

I don’t think we should be trying to put Evelyn Duah out of work. Or any voice actor for that matter.

Only if Athena has a high tendency to make sarcastic comments more than basic helpful ones, such as

Dying when the rest of your team is in or near your spawn:
“Picking fights where you are outnumbered 5 to 1 is generally a poor tactical decision.”

Being knocked off the map:
“Be careful near ledges, it’s a long way down.”

Getting hit by the cars in oasis:
“Always look both ways before crossing the street.”

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Yes absolutely it would be so much more fun.

She can even talk like she is part of their tech like after a soldier visor ult

And mock those who don’t use her tech like Reinhardt etc

She can make fun of widowmakers

We can even have settings to have her as annoying as we want :joy::rofl:

gamers have literally 0 backbone. generative ai is nothing but large scale theft and energy waste.

keep art human. AI should only be used for actual practical purposes like medicine

Yawn. Artists cried about cameras, then computers, now AI.

AI should be regulated, artists should be paid. But it isn’t going away, and it will be used for art.

Artists will get over it, then they’ll adopt it. They always do.

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Llm’s are not AI, Llm’s are glorified search engines that reorganise massive amounts of information, and present it in a brief way, sometimes they completely miss the main points and can be very very wrong, dangerously so in some cases.

Not to mention the insane amount of power a llm data centre needs to produce its answers.

And we really should not be encouraging rock, paper scissors counterswap bs. That is one of the worst parts of this game

photography takes skill, digital art takes skill. typing "girl in field, style of Miyazaki " into a prompt window takes 0. keep yawning as we take more and more resources and energy into a complete waste of time that turns out nothing but slop, even when its “better” and modified after, still looks like souless garbage