I believe it’s time for me to speak out. Ah yes its me, its NaniOWO again. Your friendly neighborhood genji main. I’m here to give you my honest opinion and balance take of this hero after playing him for several weeks in the experimental, qp, and comp.
At this point, you can nerf the stronger heroes and buff the weaker heroes to make most heores viable again which is fine. But with how the state of the game is currently and no matter what changes they make to other heroes, 29 dmg shurikens would just be fine for him. From his last patch (im not counting that meme of an OWL exp card. thats not going through ever), The fire rate change? Good. The ult charge change? Very good. Now all genji needs is another small buff which the next logical step would be 29 dmg shurikens. The only way he’ll be able to keep 28 dmg shurikens is ONLY IF they mega nerf the general power level of this game (nerfing the stronger heroes harder), but since I dont see that happening, 29 dmg shurikens is reasonable.
Thats all im asking for. Genji can be B tier, and if dive were to be meta in the future, he can be A tier (S-A-B-C-D-F Tier). With these changes imo, Genji bumped up from D to C tier which is good! He’ll be alright with 29 dmg shurikens which will bump him up from C to B tier. He wont break the game or anything. I’m happier with this genji and how they’ve changed him, but all he needs is just one more little oomph and he’s fine. Keep going with the small changes, and dont do anything big with him. Treat him carefully and just take this next small step of giving him 29 dmg shurikens and thats it. And he’ll be fine throughout.
In terms of balance sake, that should be fine. In addition for bug fixing for QoL changes, his deflect, dash, and wall climb need to be looked at to make it more consistent. But for balance change purposes, all he really need is 29 damage shurikens. If he so happen to get blade too quickly with the 29 (which i doubt honestly), then add a 5% to his current ult charge: 1932. Other than that, thats all he needs really. 29 dmg shurikens with bug fixes in deflect, dash, and wall climb and he’ll be an average hero (I consider B tier as Average btw). Right now, hes just a bit underpowered but STILL better than before his fire rate changes which is a good step. Arigato!
He is A to B tier up until plat, there he goes to B to C tier as people learn to aim and counter pick him and from Diamond upwards he goes to be D tier. So buffing him with more damage would break him in lower ranks and make him a must pick. He was already in most of my plat matches often in my and the enemy team so i do not need him in every of my games…
I feel like that is why Genji mains didn’t want or even need cancel deflect, some genji mains want it so that blade cannot be damage boosted and they don’t want Genji to be so dependent on nano blade.
I see where you are coming from but all genji mains want him to be good in the high levels while being harder in the low levels.
Plat doesn’t really matter. Plus 29 damage doesn’t really change how many shurikens he needs for a kill, it just allows him to confirm kills with melee.
If youre talking about smurfs in plat which is filled with a lot of smurfs ranging from genji, widow, tracer, and mccree smurfs, i dont think he should be balanced because smurfs are prevalent in your games. Because i see people often say genji is common in plat and its usually by sub-level 100s smurfs.
The reason why genji is seen as “good” in lower ranks because people generally dont know how to properly play. Let alone counter him so someone like him, doomfist, junkrat, pharah, and symmetra are gimmicky heroes in low ranks. No one knows how to handle them properly. Thats why when people learn how to counter them, thats how they rank up. If you continue to not improve and learn, then thats why people have trouble fighting against certain heroes. Theres a reason why certain people are stuck in low ranks if they continue to blame it on already underpowered heroes but never really learn how to improve. This balance take was simply for having the incentive to climb and have a valid choice to use him in higher ranks. But its a small change if anything.
That’s more of a smurf issue than a balance issue. As genji drops to d or f tier in GM, the genji mains there just go to a different rank where they can get away with playing him more
Good changes with genji last patch. Just needs 29dmg shurikens now as the next small step and bug fixes in Swift Strike, Dash, and Deflect. 5% ult charge nerf to current if only necessary. Will go from C tier to B tier with these changes (S-A-B-C-D-F).
