The DPS queue times are too long, and I bet most people who Overwatch want to an FPS and tanks don’t fit into that type of category. Your DPS queue times are too long and new games are coming out. Don’t want until Overwatch 2 to do it, most of your player-base will have already moved onto other games because they are DPS players and are tired of the long queue times.
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Applying a cheap solution to shorten some queue times at the expense of the quality of the game is not cool, Overwatch is not a pure FPS or a tactical shooter, it’s a “hero shooter”
If you want to play a raw FPS go out there and find yourself one that fits you, you have Modern Warfare within Activision-Blizzard, you’ll have Project A in a few years, you have CS:GO, you had Lawbreakers
Most people on the damage queue don’t want to play a military shooter that’s why they haven’t already left and that’s why they won’t leave, I don’t see my fellow main Genji going to Counter Strike y’know? But you do what you gotta do
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Right… But 321 is definitely de way.
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Not at all, the game comitted on to role lock, now they can’t be a Changing Charles, they’ll balance around 2-2-2 because it’s the comp that puts less stress on players and I trust the balance team to do it right, now if they start going 1-3-2 as soon as there is double barrier and then go to 1-2-3 because healers are underpowered at some comp the playerbase will get tired quickly I assure you
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Lul… The Nerv of you. I am not sure, fam, I think it is coming whether we want it to or not.
But yes, dps queues are the only reason why. It is very unfortunate that they care more about our wait times than the integrity of your rolen however, I wish you the best in praying that it never comes to fruition. Good luck, bruh.
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My guy I play flex or all roles, I’m not saying it hoping it doesn’t come to fruition I’m saying it because that’s how it is and most of you are going crazy about it “absolutely certain” it’ll becoming a change because Jeff mentioned them trying things including 1-3-2 and mentioned the team was divided on it or in other words doubtful it’ll actually be a change unless some drastic stuff happens which is also doubtful. We have a new “big” feature coming up this week and I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re going with and I doubt it’s 1-3-2
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Does the word “precedence” mean anything to you, Nerv, my boi? There is a reason that everyone is treating 321 as a 123 confirmation and it is not because the wait times made us coocoo for coco puffs. For the most part.
There is an announcement coming out, probably Tuesday, I am willing to bet it will likely set the building blocks for the foundation of 321. We shall see!
It would if we didn’t have context, or just simple logic to pull apart flawed ideas.
Indeed, just don’t @ me if you’re disappointed.
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Queue times are the only context that we need if you ask me.
Please, Nerv, do not forget to @ me when you are inevitably disappointed.
If they go the 132 route, I wish they made at least 222 optionally possible, like moving off tanks to the DPS category and letting 1 of the 3 DPS optionally pick max 1 of them to form a 222. There’s a lot of real off tanks mains out there, they will keep playing these heroes whatever role their in.
You can play Rein solo, but you can still play him with Zarya if one DPS choose to do so.
Jeff made it pretty clear that the experiment was interesting but not a solution they’ll be bringing to the game. There is literally nothing that implies that we’ll ever see 1-3-2.
So it’s been a really interesting and fun experiment. We’re not really confident that it’s the correct thing for the game. It solves a lot of problems but it also introduces a lot of problems (like most things in the world of game design). I am really proud of the OW team for experimenting with it for the past two months. We’re really conflicted on it so it was cool to see you bring up the idea. We’d love to hear your thoughts on and opinions on it. We’ve also been brainstorming if there is a way to bring this experiment to the community somehow (either through the PTR or the live game somehow). We don’t want to freak people out though. Usually when stuff hits the PTR, we intend for it to go live (or some version of it). But this is much more of an early experiment more than anything else.
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Honestly, if they went 1-3-2 they could revert a lot of the tank nerfs they’ve done as of late, and make tanking cool again.
I actually agree with the idea of 3 dps 1 tank 2 support.
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as a tank player coming from ps4, this would not be fun. One of the most fun things to do as tank is combining abilities IE. aggressive rein with bubble, shatter bomb, etc.
to be completely honest, that would ruin my tank experience.
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also, off tanks wouldn’t get any play
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Kinda true… They are experimenting and half of the people didn’t like it.
Also don’t forget that 1-3-2 is the average formation that we had previous Role Queue, which means, if they change it now, we are basically going back to that horrendous experience.
And we need to be aware of the fact that are a bunch of Tank/Support players that are only playing it because DPS times are too much, and once it changes they will probably come back to DPS, making it slow again.
So I don’t think 1-3-2 is the answer. They are testing it in a sub-optimal environment (regarding number of players).
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False equivalancy. The reason pre-rolequeue was so problematic was people fighting over roles, and refusing to change on/off roles that were needed. If people conciously chose different comps and the team agreed upon it, then that was fine.
That is to say, the reason for the problems was not the team composition rather it was the player behavior.
I was not talking about this, although this was really bad and one of the reasons I like Role Queue.
What I meant was the horrendous situation were you are a Tank or a Support and need to deal with 3 enemy DPSes. Even tho your DPSes can be good they will be trying to focus the tank and the supports while the enemy is prob. doing the same. Imagine you facing Mei, Reaper and Junkrat in small space mals, or facing Hanzo, Widow and a Doomfist in bigger maps. That will be a nightmare.
Well, if they do that they better revert all the changes they did to the tanks (as much as I hated double barriers as a tank main). Otherwise some tank players will give up (especially if the Damage role queue times go down) or you’ll only be seeing off tanks all the time.
I’m a Hog main but whenever someone picks an off tank I choose a main tank, in a 132 role queue I won’t be personally playing a gutted Sigma or Orisa, I will only be going for mah trusted boi Hog. Don’t start screaming that you need a shield tank then, ain’t gonna happen. And I can guarantee you that lots of you will be asking for a shield tank if this goes through.
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Blizzard officials might stop reading right there and go “cheap solution? Wow, let’s do that with no regards to anything else”. Blizzard have experts on cheap solutions that fixes things short-term with no regards to enjoyment and no regard for their playerbase.
Only you, my friend.
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