If you see a torbjorn on any of the following maps
Nepal
Hollywood (Defense Point One)
Numbani (Defense Point One)
Hanamura (Defense Point One)
stop assuming they are throwing
and do not be toxic to them for there picks
those are all very OP torbjorn maps if the torb is good
so give torb a chance
a message from a flex player who’s sick of others throwing after they pick
As someone who activly will pick non meta characters and win, i can confirm. Hanzo, torb, doomfist, bastion can be good, if pubs stop whining and let them do their job. You telling them to swap will probably make them leave voice, cutting communication with them. Ruining your overall chance of winning.
Step 1.) Don’t start playing Torb.
Step 1: Hammer turret in spawn
I assume they are throwing if they still pay them on attack.
But i can play attack torb and win ._.
its not throwing until you give up on the player and force them into a throwing situation, like 0 support and 0 effort to play as a team.
Gotta give everyone a chance. Torb/Sym on defense is usually fine, and even on attack I’ve seen some impressive torbs/syms. The problem is when they don’t swap when they’re getting hardcountered.
Torb is doing nothing while he is hammering his turret.
Torb has no mobility.
Torb’s weapon is not that great to balance his lack of mobility.
Torb’s turret, unless behind a shield, goes down very fast.
I feel sad when someone picks Torb on my team, not gonna lie…
Maybe on Lunar colony pt A and Hanamura pt B, I find those OK, but if he has to switch, that’s Ult charge wasted…
And what about that running around playing pacman for shields? Man, who came up with that idea? 
one could argue that the person playing attack torb already played the low team work card and got the whole tilt the team ball rolling in the first place.
Being Torb builds steam the longer he is set up and cranking out armor packs. Something that doesn’t tend to happen on attack. Even team picks on attack don’t tend to result in all that much armor, being he can’t gather it until the team wins the fight/point outright in many cases.
I don’t think players should throw games and rage at random players. Yet it’s getting real old to keep having one tricks keep acting like the issue is the other 5 on the team, when the other 5 are being asked to make the changes they don’t want to make.
Just play QP if one can’t play well with others.
Disclaimer: im going to be using “you” and “your” alot, please note im not directly referring to you, but instead the torb/sym one tricks
this is the issue. i would never say anyone has to play something however when someone decides to main an off Meta hero to prove a point, Stevo for instance, this is where the issues arise. everyone is now forced to play around that pick, so now you have people that have never had to play certain heroes, playing them sub-par because you decided to “prove your point” to Blizzard that you can one trick an off meta hero and make it work.
it has nothing to do with skill anymore. i dont doubt there are good torb/sym mains whatsoever, but when you say “im playing this hero no matter what” and then come to the forums to gripe and complain about how “toxic” the community is towards off meta one tricks, im thinking “what did you expect to happen?!”. its unreasonable to think that 5 people are all going to agree with your decision. not to mention when you’re playing sym into a winston and being countered hard, its ridiculous for you to then leave chat or simply start throwing. i try to give every off meta pick a chance or if someone wants to try to run and experimental comp i give it a shot, but when it isnt working you have to switch it up. not just start actaully throwing because i say “hey guys, this isnt working” or “hey do you mind playing another healer/dps?”.
echienwalde pt 1, volskaya, also a torb turret is better than most gold mcree, tracer, genji and widows.