Would widowmaker and hanzo really be effective snipers without the ability to quickly move around or exist without vertical mobility? No the just need the mobility not to ‘disengage’ but to merely use their strengths. The core identity of a sniper is to find a high ground spot to have no LOS and own and area. In any other slow paced game like TF2 were mobility is not very high on each and every hero Ana is fine but with heroes like genji tracer etc it just doesn’t tick. You may argue that ‘she was fine before mercy’ but that’s because she was never a ‘sniper’ she was a powerful ‘healer’ at that time and now she is being outshined thanks to mercy buffs and moira release who can do much better ‘mass’ healing than a quick healer.
Unless there is a possibility to make her a sniper without mobility she needs vertical mobility. If your argument is that sym and lucio can help why should people build around Ana? What does she bring to the table that will out value a rez bot who can fend for herself. Sym is good for providing mobility on paper but in reality she can only tele an ana right next to her and again she could just be better off having a mercy and saving that precious tele to perform flanks instead of wasting it just to position an inferior healer. And lucio has no synergy with ana like old times his healing range reduced doesn’t allow ana to be ok with providing less heals to the people around corners. Its always going to be mercy and ana played together for a win. With more and more mobility coming into the game why be so fixed on not giving her mobility. What makes you so fixed on it? I just don’t understand its not like her weakness are removed she still has to take out barriers etc and save her sleep dart for a disengage.
I’ve also found Ana’s lack of vertical mobility to be odd given the fact that she’s a sniper. But I scarcely find myself using her as a sniper. (Now, to be fair, I’m bad at the game, but.) I find her most effective at the back of the line doing her best Zenyatta impression. Most of the shots I am taking, friend or foe, are generally not especially long-range.
There’s this thing called… taking the stairs. Ana does best when elevated even though she doesn’t have a vertical movement ability. She still has perches she can access that are built for every character to reach. Plus with the addition of Symmetra’s new teleporter, she can reach even more sniping spots.
Being a sniper means the character excels at long range precision shots. That is true for Ana. Vertical mobility is definitely not a requirement of the archetype.
What is your logic here?(Questioning not throwing hate). The whole point of vertical mobility is to move to high ground fast. If ‘taking the stairs’ was so easy then why did the other snipers get vertical mobility? Let them take the stairs instead. Its more important for a healer to get into position than a dps cuz the entire team would be dead by the time she ‘takes the stairs’.
Having symmetra on the team should be mandatory for ana to be viable? Why? Its not like any other healer ‘needs’ someone to be played to the maximum. And its just on paper whenever I play with a sym she’s going to waste her tele on me and I have to be right next to her. Why should a character waste her ability just to make a healer viable who doesn’t even own rez.
My logic is vertical mobility is not mandatory on a sniper character. The weapon is what makes them a sniper, not their mobility. Take a look at CoD and battlefield. Sniping only requries you to have a sniper rifle that can scope and accurately hit shots over long distances. Overwatch is unique in that it has moba elements that allow widow to hookshot and hanzo to wall climb. This is exactly why Ana is allowed a sleep dart and healing grenade. Instead of mobility, ana gets cc and heals/anti. She was never meant to be a mobile champion and the devs have emphasized this on many occasions.
Symmetra is not mandatory at all, just citing her as an example that mobility can be given by other heroes in the game and provides unique synergies between characters.
Snipers are more about range and abusing lines of sight than they are about mobility.
The vertical mobility of Hanzo and Widow is important because they need more sight lines to fill their role. The are focused on enemy teams that often have barriers and and other obstacles they hide behind. By adding an element of verticality, they are allowed more of an opportunity to get picks.
Ana is primarily focused on her team, so she doesn’t need the same sight lines to help her. She still has plenty of perches and corners to abuse regardless.
That logic works in games were you don’t have ninja who deflect bullets and guy with a 2k shields with a hammer. This is not your typical normal shooter it has stuff in it. Every healer has some kind of hybrid. Bridgette is a tank hybrid who owns a shield and reasonable burst at meele range with cc and armor. The game is completely different and Bridgette gets to do her job as a tank with her utility its not like they removed her shield just cuz she has too much utility. She doesn’t ‘sacrifice’ her shield to stun or armor or heal allies. A cowboy here just doesn’t have a gun he has a stun too with burst close range damage. Every hero here is vastly powered than other games. Making another sniper dps without mobility in a game like this is impossible.
Ana has other things besides mobility though. She doesn’t NEED mobility. The only reason people are so hung up on ana needing wall climb or something is because mobility is arguably the strongest attribute in Overwatch.
It’s completely okay that not every hero has a mobile ability including snipers.
How is it okay a sniper can’t reach high ground? Its like giving reaper a shot gun but asking him to always be 5 m away. Its not ok for ana to not have quick access to high ground when she is a sniper? You can’t give me and example of a sniper who actually snipes without high ground. Present ana is just doing her stuff in mercy’s range and only extreme cases does she even follow a position on a particular high ground which again limits her sight lines. High mobility is a strong attribute not mobility and why shouldn’t she have it? It doesn’t make her a sniper just cuz she stays in the backline. It makes her sniper when she can quickly get to different high grounds.
Well, since you chose to play Ana you should already know and be accustomed to positioning yourself on high ground. That means taking your sweet granny time walking up all those stairs to have a cup of tea.
She’s not Widowmaker. She’s not Hanzo. She’s Ana. Stop trying to make her into something she’s not.
Speeding things up isn’t going break ana’s identity its a buff in the direction to make her a sniperIts going to let get to high ground within 2-5 seconds instead of a 10-15 second walk. Making it a amore viable strat. No you cant risk going to high ground cuz by the time your team will die and even if they don’t its going to take even more time to get to a different high ground.
The problem with Ana is that if you give her certain buffs, she can easily be overpowered. A person with good aim can be amazing with Ana and any mobility buffs will make her OP at those ranks.
The requirement for a main tank is more armor and a good shield never mobility. You can call orisa a tank cuz she can keep her shield. A sniper needs a no fall off gun and quick access to high ground. Only ana doesn’t have it. Wouldn’t the devs make a dps sniper without mobility they took their inspiration from tf2. Those sniper dps did not have mobility.