It’s pretty ridiculous to me that she still has her self heal when doing damage on her biotic grasp. In the right comp she can do obscene amounts of healing. it is not uncommon for me to get over 20k healing in a match. To also be able to 1v1 many DPS heroes because of her very small hitbox and passive self heal it’s no wonder people call her no skill.
I play a lot of Moira so I’m not speaking from a biased point of view. I’m speaking as someone who has played Moira for many hours since her release and I can definitely understand why people find her annoying to play against. When she manages her resources, her tanks are nearly un-killable and when you dive her she will either run away successfully (which I am ok with) or can kill you in a 1v1 (which I am not ok with since she already has the easy escape).
I don’t think she should have both an effective escape ability and a passive heal that allows her to out-duel dps heroes.
Edit: My main reason for these “nerfs” is to combat dps Moira’s. I don’t think her self heal makes her op but removing it would encourage “certain” Moira players to have a heal first mentality. As a Moira player it frustrates me to see how “these” Moira’s play and I’d like to see them punished more for playing the way they do.
Yes. Her fade is good enough to allow her to maneuver around and avoid damage. If she gets in a 1v1 she should have to decide to use fade to escape or throw an orb on herself and fight.
I don’t think this is much of a nerf since most Moira’s will still be with their team healing. I think this will kill the DPS Moira’s who just go around trying to kill stuff and never heal their team. It’s really a nerf for them. For the one’s who stick with their tanks and have a heal first mentality, this change wouldn’t do much to them.
Blatantly false. If the enemy team is running Genji and a bad Soldier who misses his rockets as their DPS, then sure, but Moira is not a pocket Transcendence.
Why? Mercy has an escape and strong self-heal. So does Lucio. Have you seen what DPS-Lucios can dp? They’re scarier and harder to kill than DPS Moiras (not that he should be nerfed for it either, the Supports are in a good spot right now)
She already doesnt heal through barriers nor gets resources/HP regen when attacking one … she has 0 sustain outside of this. Lucio has aura, Mercy Regen, Brig self heals through Inspire and a shield, Zen shield regen, Ana is super powerful and sustain is the only thing she doesnt have (still can use nade).
Yes because 30hps is more than enough to survive okhs, aoe bombs and rockets dealing 120 dmg, shotgun blasts, arrows to the face etc. Heck even Winston can duel her and come out on top
Mercy can’t 1v1 anything. Fragging out with lucio is pretty hard because of his projectiles and you want to be wall riding while shooting accurately. Positioning right to get boops is something not all or many lucios can do. With Moira it feels a little too easy. Or at least easy enough to get these people who don’t heal with Moira and just try to kill stuff.
I don’t think “stopping the DPS-Moiras” is a good reason to make balance changes. Playing poorly is the fault of the player, not the hero. I also don’t think she’s out there doing so much damage that she’s invalidating DPS. It’s unfortunate that people pick a healer and don’t heal, but that can happen with literally any healer - hell Zen is much better at fragging than Moira.
But if you’re in a 1v1 you already have the choice to throw an orb at yourself or the enemy and 1v1. Or you can escape with fade. It would not objectively be a nerf. Only conditionally. If you don’t go out and try to 1v1 people it won’t affect you.
I only throw damage orbs for the little ult charge. But I mostly throw healing orbs. But I have games where someone else will play Moira and it frustrates me when they are always throwing damage orbs or i see them in the middle of nowhere 1v1ing a widow while our rein is critical.
