I am a bit disappointed with the skins in the OW2 shop.
I am fine charging ~20€ for a skin to support the ow team, but at least I expect the skin to have special effects, sounds, custom voicelines or to drastically change the character, a bit like the LoL skins that in some cases it almost seems to play another character so much are the custom effects… instead they seem to be all “legendary” skins without anything special and that do not motivate the expenditure of 20 €.
Roadhog “Cyber Hog” is very beautiful as a skin but the only special effect that has is the hologram on belly that you don’t even see in first person; everything else hasn’t changed.
Same thing for Zenyatta with “Cyber Monk”, which doesn’t even have a hologram or special effects for the ultimate… at this point it’s better to use the Halloween skin where there are tentacles and says a special voiceline in ultimate.
Im not a fan of the 20$ price tag but I actually like that they dont overhaul the voices or sound effects for each hero with new skins. This is because sometimes in other games, crazy skins or different voices for the same hero can be incredibly distracting and confusing especially in a game where teams can change their composition at any time.
I dont mind it if it only plays for me like lucio’s jazzy or pink mercy healing but different sounds or looks that depart heavily from a character’s core design would be too much IMO.
i agree, maybe changing the character’s design would be too too much, but having something like train reinhardt, lucio’s jazzy or pink mercy’s skins effects is at least the minimum for a 20€/$ skin
man, to avoid misunderstandings: nowhere does an FPS F2P charge that much for what should be standard game content. BP offers Exclusives and its okay for make money, but with the old price of Ow1 in 2016 Dayone today you would not pay even 10% of the contents of your main hero in a completely free way.
ow2 is not a mobile game and nowhere do they offer you so little for so much money without being exclusive. and if they do, no one has such a ridiculous free coin flow. so at least avoid these claims, we deserve better as gamers, with or without having seen it done elsewhere, but I doubt you have seen these exact conditions anywhere other than mobile.
actually many of the skins currently have buggy special effects, such as skins for lucio, some from zenyatta or even wrong turrets for Symmetra dragon. they haven’t even coordinated Orisa’s new javelin with her skins. and this is even more unfair the condition of the shop on old contents.
I agree with most of it. There was until this point not a single skin that was worth the $20 price tag. Very likely that I will make an exception for the new Kiriko skin but mostly because I dont like the basic skins and the BP skin of her.
You are right, but i am not talking about bugged skins, neither i said that ow2 is the perfect game (and it is not, for sure right now)…
The old ow will never come back and now we have to deal (forced) with season passes shops ect. because the old system with lootboxes nowadays do not support a game like this at long term (is a matter of fact).
If they actually create some skins for heroes that are super cool with audio and graphic effects, and they charge ~€ for them, why not buying if interested? It’s a W/W i suppose .
But like i said skins right now in the shop are disappointing (Cyberhog and Cybermonk specifically) and not worth 20€ IMO…
Just so you know that 20 dollars you spend for a skin doesn’t go to support the team or get reinvested back into the game. It goes to shareholders and to Bobby for his new boat.
It’s probably one of the worst monetization plans I’ve seen in any mainstream game that isn’t a mobile game. It’s awful and predatory. Selling 4 year old skins that were free to unlock a couple of weeks ago is pretty scummy lets not even try to defend it.
10 years ago a company that tried to do this would have crashed and burned but everyone is so used to and exhausted by microtransactions/battle passes these days, we just accept it.
well, let’s say it’s physically impossible to pretend that every legendary skin (in this case TWO) they release weekly could actually be worth $ 20 … even previous skins didn’t have that kind of value. Add in some special voice lines and visual effects and does it actually deserve $ 20? for content that you can have all year round as soon as you have the money? No, and even the much-vaunted Mercy Pink wasn’t that kind of value ($ 15, and donated to a REAL good cause). Blizzcon skins were paid for along with lots of Blizzard items and blizzcon tickets, and obviously there are other types of critical issues for it. but it was still a container of $ 50 items that an OW skin didn’t even represent 20% of the price ($ 10?) without even having some unique special effects, often.
So here they sell these skins exclusively through bundles (only using the coins, not the credits): and they give you the voiceline, the cover, the charm … but didn’t you just care about the skin? in short, they are unnecessarily full containers, and I speak for the cases of Zenyatta and Sojourn. Roadhog’s is just as unfair because it is called a “bundle” but it is only he who buys, exclusively coin. All content that is not part of the BP. all of the contents that will become standard just like the skins of the past.
And let’s be very honest on this point: not even the old skins have had justice for the prices, imagine how you must feel like a new player who is attracted to … zenyatta cultist, to give a qualitative example of effects and audio? and then it also has small downgrades there compared to those who had this skin with the old logic of the lootbox and with a non-bugged quality: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/y7jtr2/they_even_messed_up_zens_cultist_meditate_emote/
a game that does not respect old content in what is first of all an update operation, which takes two weeks to functionally fix a character on the roster (Bastion) and today sells old content at a higher price … for me it does not even deserve to have as a suggestion “can you make the new skins worth better at $ 20?”. They don’t deserve it at all and we all know why is unfair. you may not like these skins or this style, but even if they were extremely articulate there is no precedent or thought that justifies this price for ONE skin. maybe just the Mythic Skin, which as you know, is (rightly) the ultimate exclusive of BP.
I absolutely prefer to spit on their price sign, but not because these specific new skins of roadhog and Zen don’t deserve this value … but because the whole gallery has this kind of pricing and is standard game content with a false bounty on weekly free coins. Nobody really cares about having skins that deserve this price, especially in FPS which doesn’t have the same visual privileges as a TPS game where you see your character entirely.
Their entire monetization system needs to be overhauled. It would be useful using a system similar to Apex with double currency (Apex coins and shards) where with both it is possible to buy everything (or almost) without wasting money on money.
But again i am not saying that the BP, prices, shop ect. are perfects, i am just saying that for 20€ i expected better (reading topics on this forum and reddit i am not the only one)
yes, I understand what you mean. it’s just that I don’t even feel like it’s fair to hope they are worth of them or that they go further to do justice at this price point. At that price my favorite character (Orisa) would be able to have a speech synthesizer for everything I write in the chat, or get orisa’s physical funko pop for free. Sot exaggerating with irony, but if you talk to me about having a shiny texture, a different vocal line, a sound, a vocal filter or even a change of texture (actually, a Sombra New Lunar Year skin already does it). they are not worth that price. no more than a limited time mythic skin, of which it doesn’t have that price in BP because I still struggle to get that skin at the end of 80 lv or I go to pay the level boost with over 12,000 coins.
At least you can earn boxes and materials for free in Apex, I wish they bring leveling system back with boxes, it would be awesome, at least with the Apex % rarity ratio they won’t even notice they change.
Because giving 60 coins per week if you do all weekly challenges is like laughing at our faces lol. 31 weeks to get a 1900 coins skin
I’m with you bro, I expect better skins and not the ones from OW1 for that price.
I also understand people who say that changing voice/animations could affect the game because I know when Genji uses his ultimate, Cassidy, Dva… Changing voices for those things would mess up my game sense, but yeah, I get your point
The issue is that they clearly copied Apex legends and Valorant, but they dont have the same systems or mechanics (like materials or lootboxes) so all the prices are off.
The skins are fine in itself, but they are not Mythic. So in comparison, with regular Legendaries you can get at 1900 … they are not that much better. Even with the bundle.
Honestly, I don’t care what they bring to the shop. With these prices I wouldn’t buy a skin even if it is pay to win skin. They are giving us OW 1 event quality skins and expect us to pay 20 $ per skin?? Thats low even for Blizzard
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