90% of full hold on first points involve a Mercy

It’s because they want their multi-hero revival back rawrrrr

I do think that a Moira and an Ana are much more impactful in a defence with 80+HPS than a Mercy with her single target 50HPS and Rez, sure she can rez another ally and turn a fight 6v6 again, but you forgot the enemy team still have the midfight advantage since they will probably have an Ana or Moira.
This is not being impactuful, this is having 1 impactuful ability, now compare it with the impact of Ana’s healing, granade, ult and sleep dart. Compare it with Moira’s Coalescense, AOE 75HPS, 300HP healing orb and primary fire damage. Mercy is way behind them, if you can’t see that you probably shouldn’t be talking about game balance.

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Unless someone dies in meantime, as Mercy doesn’t heal or boost anyone during resurrect. Ana and Moira have abilities, that affect multiple teammates, not just one.

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That is that too, Mercy is basically removed from the game for 2 seconds when she is using rez.

I pointed out that their profile showed they mostly play Torb and they had 50+ topics created about how Torbs rework ruined him (lol). Overbuff showed their last Mercy game was 6 months ago or something. They privated it since and now they’re a “Mercy main” who spams every Mercy thread with that “Factually, Mercy has been buffed and not nerfed, Respectfully, My opinion and many other Mercy players is that she is fun and impactful” babble. It’s rly strange.

(I think Mercy is “ok” though. Her kit could just be re-arranged in a much cleaner way.)

Also OPs stat is ridiculous lol. As soon as we pick someone we just rush through because it means Mercy is rezzing and not healing… which makes it a 4v6. If you’re not taking advantage of the 4v6 window that’s your fault??

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First point holds generally only happen when

A:) the attacking team has a terrible comp

or

B:) In sub 2000 games where the defense team runs a really hardcore cheese comp like double shields bastion/torb or substitute one of them with mei on a map like hanamura

Mercy generally isn’t the issue in those situations (granted raising the bastion doesnt help your cause) It’s the cheese comps themselves and the fact that the skill floor to counter those comps is substantially higher than the skill floor for the defensive side seeing as turrets dont miss…

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It kinda depends on who dies. If you lose a tank the point is lost, if you lose a support or dps there’s a chance you can res.

But remember people die because they are out of position, so you have to go out of position to res, so not every res, even in defense, is resable.

90.27% of statistics are made up.

Just because the healing isn’t able to be missed doesn’t mean it’s strong, I could argue Brig has strong heals because he can’t miss with it. It’s still 16 hps for her.

Bottom line is whether heals are able to be missed and strong are unrelated.

This person gets it. First point hold are so few and when they do happen, it’s for the above reasons. The second one especially, even more so when the attacking team only has a 1 to take the point.

Other than a good Mercy, Lucio will outheal her (I do most of the time get gold and healing cards as Lucio at the end of the match). Practically only Moira and Ana now can be considered main healers and only because they have burst healing ability. Mercy is a niche healer and rez has impact if there is only one teammate down or enemy team is clueless, otherwise Mercy rarely will survive a resurrect attempt.
The main issue is that she doesn’t have any utility ability, her heals are too weak even to counter Winson while all other healers can damage and heal at the same time. Her damage per match is usually around 0 and heals are between Lucio and Zenyatta, this clearly show an issue with a hero that supposedly should be very good at single target sustaining.

That can be said about her base kit as well. At 50hps every big name Mercy main EeveeA_ Titanium, Neptuno, Starr2d2 ect are saying to give her 60 if not 55hps. Their reasoning is at 50hps pushes them to only heal for the most part. Damage boost was something that EeveeA_ especially advocates that more Mercy’s need to use, said that because of 50hps there is not as many opportunities because someone is always crit.

Yes there is only a fraction of a second difference between fully healing a 200hp hero and a 2 second difference for tanks, but ever since her nerf she has filled the role of off-support than main support, even with Valk. Running Mercy/Zen is now a lot harder than running Ana/Mercy. If she has someone to cover her lower volume of healing she has.

I would say the opposite, the nerf to 50hps was an unnecessary nerf given all of the other support changes that were going in at the same time, Ana’s especially since now her pick rate is strikingly similar to where it was in S3 where she was a must-pick.

Now I’m okay to agree to disagree because it seems to be that case.

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Since Mercy could heal just fine without using Valkyrie, when she had 60 hps, they created a reason to use one.

Factually, there were reasons to use Valkyrie even prior to the fairky recent set of two significant buffs

That said, some of these applications require that Mercy use her full kit rather than refusing to use parts of it as some anti Mercy players apparently do

I 100% have noticed the difference in usage of damage boost since the nerf. I would watch higher level Mercy gameplay (and still do from time to time), and have noticed a drastic difference in their usage of damage boost. They don’t use it nearly as often, and have to focus on healing more than damage boosting. It’s kind of sad, really. I don’t think they considered how nerfing her healing output would affect the rest of her kit.

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Just full held again. Mercy and Brig were other team’s healers. Get on Mercy and she instantly healed up to full. Every first pick, rezzed up. But yeah Mercy needs more buffs :frowning: Rezzing people has no impact on the game :frowning:

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