Thanks for giving me my laugh of the day
If we’re playing on a map with no walls then sure
but we aren’t, are we?
See you guys later
I want to make a racing map for them now…
When they leave spawn, mercy isn’t in front of Lucio. Lucio has the best mobility in the game because of his wall burst, and autonomy in his mobility.
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I find her undertuned and badly designed. No compensation is needed if she is undertuned.
For what? She isn’t healing through ults, it’s sustain…amd to sustain a whole team 30 hps for everyone is still stronger than 50hps for one.
Your subjective opinion is proven wrong by the objective stats that show she’s balanced.
Balance is not a fact anywhere. I thought she was balanced at 60 hps flat, and just badly designed. Now I feel she’s undertuned and still badly designed.
If you seriously think 30 hps Valkyrie is the same value as 60 hps valkyrie…I don’t know what to say.
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I think her healing value is lowered…not it’s purpose. Not the fact that she would still be strong in valk with it. It’s a nerf. But still strong . Because valk is inherently strong. She could have no heal chain and only dmg boost chains and still be very strong in valk
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Got a source for that very bold 90% claim?
Also to answer your question… very little of what she does feels impactful. That’s the problem. It isn’t that she doesn’t have impact… it’s that it is nearly impossible to see/feel the impact she has.
And in your case, a statement is false, until proven as fact.
Look you can keep on saying you have hours on mercy, just realize that lots of people here are saying you don’t. With your lack of proof, their statement holds more weight that you repeatedly shouting “I have mercy hours guyz! Cuz I say so!” Over and over. At this point you’re just making yourself look like someone who doesn’t want to listen to anyone else but themselves. To the point where you are LITERALLY copy/pasting the same things over and over, breaking the forum CoC, and theoretically plugging your ears and going “lalala” in ignorance and denial, when the truth is that the odds are completely against you in your arguments.
Just saying “Well I do cuz I do!” is all fine and dandy, but it doesn’t convince anyone except yourself that it’s fact. And it makes your argument look like a strawman (which apparently is what you are known on these forums for doing constantly)
Keep on parroting that it is though bud. Just don’t be surprised when no one believes a word you’re saying about Mercy and your credibility about her takes a hit each time you do.
Just as you say that “Factually you have hours on Mercy” I can just as easily say the opposite of “You don’t have hours on Mercy,” and until you provide evidence to back up your “facts”, you can’t prove me wrong. & That’s the tea.
Factually, this is only applied when the statement that is being said is a universally accepted statement.
“The Earth orbits around the sun” is an example, as is “Mercy’s name is Angela”
“The player Caliginous has 136 hours on Mercy” is not universally accepted, therefore must be supplemented with proof. That proof can be seen on my player profile.
This is a claim, and a claim without supplemental proof, can be disregarded since there is no weight against it, and it’s not a universally accepted fact.
This is not an argument for or against private profiles, but if you’re using your time as a point in your argument with no proof that’s like saying “I’m the president of some unknown club” You can’t prove, nor can you disprove that statement, so for arguments sake it is ignored.
Even when I had my profile on private I still disclosed ballpark numbers, if nothing else to give people an idea to where I was coming from. I also disclose when talking about heroes I know nothing on by saying “I don’t play this hero nor do I understand how they work, but from the standpoint of [insert main that applies] my view is…”
What I am trying to say is, by all means keep your profile private, but you can’t use hidden information to try to give your argument any credit or weight.
The way your arguments come across you make it seem like Ana/Moira will be caught with no healing, and though yes that might happen, the opposite is true for Mercy. She could be dived on and forced to run away from a teammate who is in critical need of her healing, and she has no other abilities healing wise to ensure that her teammate gets that healing. On the other hand, Moira and Ana both have an ability that can be used while they reload/get some healing juices back.
I hardly see you talk about the times mercy can’t heal. Mercy for me is my back-up hero for when my disability is acting up, and I really feel like she was hurt bad with her rework. This is based on my experiences over almost 3 years of this game, and having played a lot of iterations of Mercy. Yes she has the most consistent aim, but as someone who plays all healers (somewhat) equally, I feel I have more game-changing impact as Zenyatta where before it was about even.
Right now, Mercy’s healing is lower than any damage in the game aside from Moira beam. The breaks in firing from tanks and DPS players aren’t enough for 50hps to do much in terms of saving a teammate because 50hps is easily burst down. There are times where Ana’s 75 per shot is easily burst down as well, but at least with Ana there is the nade I can fall back on if that’s not enough. Zenyatta has his personal damage and discord to help out his hurting teammates (not to mention his ult).
I am not saying she’s trash I am saying she needs to be looked at a little more because while numbers wise she is fine, as a player one of the 3 pillars of balance the dev team is looking at is weak compared for a large portion of the community and a lot of them are big names like EeveeA_, and Titanium. I am pretty sure I remember Neptuno said something about it, but I could be wrong (disclaimer put in case my memory is wrong) and he’s a pro.
That being said I do understand people who do like the changes Valk brought, I know EeveeA_ and StarR2D2 both like the changes Valk but also don’t like all the nerfs that took to get her in line and now feel that she’s watered down because damage boost where they play (T500/GM) they need to focus on healing because her healing output is low enough to where the damage boosting opportunity doesn’t present itself.
(This is all discussed in a 4 hour long interview done about a month ago on youtube).
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Also about the “Mercy’s name is Angela! It’s the same thing with my profile!!! Factual~!” thing they keep saying.
The difference is that you can look up Mercy’s real name and find the information yourself. There is no “secrecy” about the name, unlike this guy who is actively hiding their player stats, which I don’t care about, but then at the same time they are the first to jump on anyone regarding their own knowledge about Mercy and question their credibility every chance they get as soon as it disagrees with their own personal “agenda” of “Mercy is fine” - for whatever reason that is.
I find the way they’re acting to be pretty suspicious. They’re honestly being a complete hypocrite there, while pushing their own agenda down everyone’s throats, and that’s why so many people are annoyed by them and don’t take them seriously in regards to Mercy.
Who is talking about game balance regarding Mercy? I’m confused as to what people you’re attempting to address.
If other team waits for pick and doesn’t charge in, OP is correct. If they just charge in regardless, it’s not going to work, as more deaths will happen during resurrect time.
That’s just false now.
I never depend on the positioning of my team because I have access to GA’s mechanics like the slingshot and the super jump.
Mercy has never been so self-sufficient, she just needs someone, anyone, and she can ascend pretty high and/or far.
She’s not more reliant on her allies than other healers…
It really does not matter if Mercy is strong or weak if her kit means loyal Mercy players stop playing her. I know there are a lot of people who enjoy Mercy as she is now, but does that mean that Mercy 3.x can’t be good for both those who enjoy her now and those who don’t?
Well, I enjoyed Mercy more when she was severely underpowered, and it wasn’t because she had mass-rez but because she did not have Valkyrie.
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??? The moira/Ana can still keep healing when being focused, I do it all the time. Ana/Moira are just better at defending themselves so they are more likely to fight back.
Could be different, if Valkyrie had it’s power shifted towards supporting team, rather than Mercy’s own survivability + making some of the base kit skills unneeded for whole duration.
Well, those are kind of the flaws. However, if Valkyrie was reworked not to have those flaws it wouldn’t be Valkyrie… which would probably be a good thing, but I would classify that as Mercy 3.x since it would have been a significant rework
first where are you getting your numbers? because pulling them out of your abyss is not valid.
second, mercy sux. the rez takes so long and is so obvious that half the time you lose mercy to rez. not to mention that you dont have to charge in when you get a pick, you can wait for another.
and the fact your profile is private means you go something to hide.