yes its a grind. going from diamond 5 to masters, for me, would likely take 100s of games.
Yeah, but this person has not played 100 games this season, lol. If they had, they’d probably be ranked out with a 62% winrate.
And still, not THAT much different. It’s still way more games than you should be losing in order for the argument, “you’d think I’d rank out REALLY fast” to make any sense.
And an extra 12 wins out of 100, really doesn’t sound THAT much different.
PR WR is not a linear curve since it’s not 1v1 and you are tied to balancing.
If you exceed the WR by a high margin than you do in fact carry.
The matchmaker should put you faster in higher ranked matches and not draw it out over 200games or whatever.
12extra, are 12%. Statistically, that’s a lot
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Right, and in a 10 player game, where you don’t affect 100% of whether you win or not, it needs more than a couple of games to determine that YOU are the factor.
Pharah sits at 50%WR in Silver
OP is outperforming the statistics by 24%.
Don’t diminish that
Yes, likely it needs more than 36-40 games, but you should expect the matchmaker to adjust, especially since it’s a lot more volatile at the beginning of the season
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You aren’t wrong, but, the mere fact that you care enough to post your opinions on this forum tell me you aren’t even in the target group for microsoft. They already have you, cause like the rest of us, you are addicted. Whats the alternative, generic bran paladins? Our opinions don’t matter they trying to lure in new fish with shinies. This sounds jaded af ik ik but its the hard truths
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Do you mean 12%?
And don’t almost all characters sit right around 50% in all ranks? I’m not sure how that is relevant.
You’re not wrong unfortunately.
People are saying I’ll rank up if I grind more, I mean, I’ll see how it is, if the grind continues to be this bad I might just not play as much.
It just doesn’t get me excited for ranked.
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No, 24% of 50%WR to get to 62%
Performance base on the expected WR
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So again, that’s not really a lot. And for some reason you are choosing to just compare it to all pharahs at the rank? How is that relevant. Pharahs do not have their own separate rank.
But, of course at any given rank you are going to expect the average to be a 50% win rate. And again, the OP I’m sure IS climbing, just not as fast as they think they should, because they are winning 60% of their games? That doesn’t make sense to me, but that’s okay
Of course I compare OPs Pharah to the average Pharah on OPs rank.
That’s the only viable comparison and OP does in fact outperform the average Pharah player by 24%
If an account is settled, the account climbs slowly, if the account is not settled or you just started the season your account is much more volatile.
Pushing up the account to make games fair for everybody would a logical conclusion, but that’s not happening, instead it goes very slowly.
If that is happening on a large scale, matchmaking is failing tremendously, creating mass unfair games where WR for far too many players are getting distorted
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Okay, but pharah players are not compared in this game, so that is completely irrelevant to the conversation. (unless they still compare? But I don’t think they do)
But this is all also irrelevant to anything being said, so, um, okay. I guess you are just in your own world.
As far as I know, accounts are all still very volatile when they are new or haven’t been played in a while.
It is relevant
If you play a hero with 57%WR (which we saw in the past with broken heroes) and your WR is sitting at 62% you are not far off, very likely not hard over performing, but if your hero sits at 50% WR, it’s a whole different topic.
You are breaking the expectations of the matchmaker and you preform far above your rank
If the account is volatile, than OP would climb fast and not slowly
In short: It basically looks like OP is smurfing in silver, which should not be happening
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No, you are breaking the expectations of THAT hero, and THAT hero alone. Let me give you an example. If mei was sitting at 30% win rate, and you won 40% of the time with mei, the matchmaker is not going to say, well, this person only wins 40% of the time in silver, but they clearly belong in gold!
Why would they take someone winning 40% of the time and rank them up, just because they play the character better than other players? They would obviously win even less when ranked higher. That’s why it is not relevant at all to the conversation.
Yeah, and there is a reason that ALL accounts are not volatile. You seem to be arguing that they should be, and I disagree.
a 60% win rate is NOT smurfing, lol. A 60% win rate means you barely even belong higher. Yes, maybe you belong higher (depending on how many games it took you to get 60% win rate, 3/4 games does not indicate that you should rank up), but that’s why the ranking moves slowly.
Due to the SR modifiers you need far above a 60% winrate to climb. The ladder has always been rigged but now we can see it. If you’re doing too well you’ll get “expected” over and over again to prevent you from gaining SR too fast.
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Bro that’s the thing that makes the least sense.
That DAMN EXPECTED.
So you’re telling me, I’m climbing and getting wins and you’re punishing me for it?
I get LESS SR FOR WINNING?
WHAT IS THIS bro.
It makes NO sense.
What it is is consipracy nonsese.
If you get “expected,” it just means that your TEAM is expected to win. Not YOU alone. It means they couldn’t find an even match, and it’s slightly skewed in your favor.
I don’t know how often you get expected to win vs expected to lose, as I don’t really care about my rank and never check it, but I doubt you are getting it more often if you win more.
By the way, you are welcome for explaining it to you.
But again, that’s why I say you need to win those expected to lose matches, because they are generally against higher ranked players. That is your time to prove yourself. Beating lower ranked players, or those of your skill level, are probably why you have the 60% win rate, but are moving up slowly. Because you are losing when expected to lose (playing against higher ranks), and only winning when expected to win.
The question is: Are your teammates on the same skill as the enemy team?
I actually don’t know, but would not be surprised if the matchmaker stacks the odd specifically against you
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Another swing and a miss from a “not uh” forum contrarian. You really think they couldn’t shuffle the teams in a way that one player isn’t getting “expected” five or more matches in a row? Do you understand how basic math works?
You didn’t explain anything. You’re arrogantly preaching about how you (incorrectly) “think” things work and getting basic assumptions wrong.
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And have you gotten expected 5 matches in a row? Does that happen often?
It’s not as easy as just, “shuffle teammates so that EVERYONE has a perfectly even amount of expected and unexpected matches!” Do YOU understand how basic math works? It has to take into consideration ALL 10 players, not just the guy that had a few expected matches the last games.
What in the world do you need explained to you?!??! Mr. “VirginLoser” with 3 posts