…I still can’t counter the doomfist.
If I flash him, he’s pocketed, and has extra shields for some reason, and can just use his get out of jail free kit to escape.
I freeze him, he gets pocketed, see above.
Constant noreg’s. Were talking full sound and visual effect. Zero damage. I once poured three direct rockets into a Doomfist with the full explosion and everything. He just took it like an idiot. Zero damage.
I hear a Doomfist oh my healer is already dead, we lost the push. Only way I can stop it is to predict it, and even then it’s a 50/50 chance with one of his supposed counters.
Just venting after a bad loss to you know who. Feel free to comment or ignore.
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There were so many threads like this about Genji in 2017. No nerfs. Just Moira and similar AOE/loose-aim power creep.
I won’t go on about the dozens of reasons overwatch is garbage, but I can confidently say the devs are either sadists or retarded chimps.
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Genji is possible to balance though. I’m not sure the same is true of Doomfist. Being a melee based DPS in an FPS game, I feel like he will always be either OP or garbage.
And Genji may have a small hitbox, but at least when I hit it I will do damage.
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Not when he’s deflecting. There was always an excuse, just like with Doomfist now. The state of the game is different, and Doomfist thrives in it. 'Sides, Doomfist can be un-dumbed, too. Lots of things in the game can be. They’re not interested in fixing problems, though. 
I agree he’s really good now but those heroes you mentioned still do have some advantage because they can freeze or stun him. I usually play Sombra as she’s the best counter to him but I don’t recommend someone who doesn’t play her do that. You’re basically just turning the game into a 5v5.
I’m actually ok with that. If Genji had to use a cooldown to defend against me, at least it took some skill, whether it be cooldown management or recognizing the need.
With Doomfist, my damage doesn’t register because his interaction with server interpolation is buggy AF.
The issue here is if he is pocketed. If I flash him to prevent a kill on my healer, and he has ANY healing, I can’t burst him down, and even if I did it perfectly, the time it would take me to two tap the pocket would be enough for him to get unstunned, kill my healer, and GTFO. And my play takes WAY more skill.
Edit: Also don’t forget about Zarya bubbles. I have a choice between helplessly watching my healer die or helplessly watching my healer die while I feed Zarya.
If he’s pocketed it’s a 2v1. Why do you expect to win a 2v1?
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Pick Sombra, you screw DF just to get rekt by Hanzo/Widow ha
Who’s pocketing him when he’s that deep in your team?
Doomfist is good and viable, but I wouldn’t pretend he’s some OP unstoppable powerhouse. He is annoying for sure, but he’s not some behemoth dominating the game like original Mercy 2.0 or original Brigitte.
Team game… I find Orisas halt can really screw up a DF if he is not prepared for it. Work together, make df a priority if he is consitantly diving and killing the backline. CC him, pull him, freeze him, hack him and burst him. If you manage to consistently do that, he will be forced to switch to another dps.
Sometimes you just can’t do such things alone and you have to make your team aware.
The easiest way to shut down a doomfist is to make sure you see him coming. Don’t wait for him to start grunting at your healers before you try to find him. You should make an effort to know where he is before that happens.
Remember: It only takes one boop or CC to completely ruin his combo cycle.
I’d use a facepalm picture if I had one, but I don’t mean that insultingly. What I’m saying is that the complaints around Doomfist in the current state of the game are similar to complaints around Genji in the state of the game a couple years ago. There’s a good amount of it that can’t just be toned down without being completely useless.
I wasn’t comparing the two directly, nor mentioning Genji in the current state of the game. 
Yeah, but then Genji got nerfed because of nerf Ultimate for all and the deflect had big hitbox. There were almost no way to cancel his ultimate, but indeed Moira and others have impact to counter.
I still recommend sombra as a better backline defender.
I tend to play zarya and bubble our doomfist when he goes in. Combine that with a zen orb and he is pretty unkillable unless you have a sombra. Even then the bubble plus orb might give him the sustain needed to survive til the recently nerfed hack wears off allowing him to escape
Try playing Doomfist yourself. It’s way harder to get kills than you think, unless your team pockets you hard (but then it’s playing as a team, so his team deserves to win).
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It sounds like you got outplayed by the enemy team, not that Doomfist is broken. If he’s getting pocketed, then you’d need to do something about that as well. The enemy team probably noticed that you initially had problems with the Hero to begin with and then saw the counterpick, but then decided to pocket him because it would still be effective if you’re not good at the Heroes your team was playing.
Well we just played a match where the entire team counterpicked him and did nothing but try and counter, and he still carried.
More likely he got his cooldowns buffed in order to deal with GOATs, and now he’s a monster in 2-2-2.
Also how does shots getting noreg equate to getting outplayed? He survives due to server BS, not being a better player or having a better team.
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