6 damage Tracer is a good choice

Tracer deserves to be the best character in the game and the world is a marginally better place with her having a spot in near every comp. She’s by far the most flexible dps, you can put her with a hitscan or another flex no problem, she doesn’t care if she gets an ELO bandit backline like mercy/moira, and helps enable some of the cooler tank picks like Winston, haz, doom, etc. you can even play her as a pseudo off tank with your mobility to help cover a brawlier tank teammate.

She heavily rewards the player proportional to their skill in the three pillars of overwatch; mechanics/aim, positioning, and resource management/tracking. Her ceiling is near infinite, and despite a solidly high skill floor I believe any player can pick her up using whichever of those 3 skills they think is their strength to have a solid foundation while they hone the others.

Outside of recall with the major perk nothing she does is free (still requires awareness of where your recall takes you, what is going on there, and pathing to escape with your two blinks). The faster she kills you the better she is, whether she mag dumps your head without missing, baiting out an important cd and pouncing, or playing off the tank and denying your retreat.

I think with all that if she’s played perfectly she should 1000% be the best character in the game, even playing at a human level and making mistakes (which she’s heavily punished for) it’s healthy for the best character to be one that so heavily rewards skill expression

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I think we should break Tracer’s legs and let Torbjorn be our META king for a season.

And even if she deserves to be strong, I really don’t think she should because she’s fast and annoying, she’s like a mosquito, she what some people describe Sombra as.

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Hard disagree, Tracer was easily the most broken dps and they buffed her damage more.

Tracer has been babied all throughout Overwatch as the poster child. The hero isn’t even skillful, just completely broken with mobility, if you want to get top 500 as dps play Tracer, every single top 500 does.

You can make all the mistakes you want on Tracer, you have the most broken mobility in the game to get you out. You can have garbage tracking too like Qrow, but the mobility will deadlift you

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Idk if you should be trash talking others aim, when there are the vids that frequently get posted. Also thinking tracer is easy is funny. But then again it’s akj, so no1 really cares.

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It’s not even just that. She keeps most of the problem heroes in check by design, so her being in the meta makes the meta healthier. All good metas have both Tracer and Brig in them. I don’t make the rules.

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Goats was fun, but also double shield ran brig to shut down dive so… Disagree.

Not all metas with Tracer and Brig are good. But all metas without them are bad

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Despite how disgusting tracer typically is, I’m gonna have to agree most good metas have tracer and brig.

Even if it’s partially because tracer is just obscene to counter hitscan and thus dive is the only poke counter and only brig can stand up to dive.

My favorite is tracer brig meta where other dps still have a little room to do things, but that hasn’t happened since season 8… hanzo sym mei and pharah had room to breath just barely while tracer and genji were just strong enough to not make hitscan a no brained auto pick. And you could afford your other dps to go utility (as a flier or anti tank measures for others) because tracer afforded you that…

When tracer is strong enough to kill hitscan but not so overbearing that she deletes supports, the meta can afford the other dps to play things otherwise kept in a dusty closet by hitscan and I do like that. I also like that brig ana and illari are some of the supports that can handle tracer decently and they require either skill or game sense to do so, and are healthier support metas too (well when illari isn’t two tapping standard heroes which she never will again but definitely should be able to on 225 but anyway)

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Sojourn meta- trash
Freja meta- trash
Pharah brief meta- trash
Every single tank meta- trash
Baptiste/illari meta… trash for dps players only but still unfair
Widow meta- trash

I will say season 7 Winston/sombra/tracer/genji extreme dive meta was horse manure for everyone else involved but it was short lived so meh

As an avid tracer player what would you think of 6.5 damage tracer with 150 hp?

Well, Season 6, Illari released in OP state. (Even if I mained her, I still hated her in release). Bap, Illari most popular comp. To counter then Winston appeared but quickly was deleting by Bastion. To counter Bastion Sigma appeared, but also was most synergazing tank with Bastion. So Bap, Illari heals Sigma-Bastion, Sigma protects Bastion, Bastion protects supports and tank. That literally was mirror matches. Winston, Zarya or any other tank? Bastion. D.va? Sigma and etc.
Now just so many factors that holds back Bastion for counter brawl/dive metas.

after a couple of weeks of maining her i am getting a bit decent. she is strong for sure but on your own you cant do everything. still need your team to help

i remember seeing a tracer god long ago tho, a for sure smurf in this one game i was in and i was moira. the tracer like 1v5’d our team and i couldnt even touch her as moira. never seen a tracer like that again. forogt the name since months ago

For Tracer too.

I don’t like hard dive metas. They simply don’t play out in game like they do on paper, and as a solo queue player I’d rather be completely independent. My favorite meta is a mix of rush and dive heroes, so something like JQ, Tracer, Hanzo, Juno, Brig (this is my ideal meta, not saying it has been one).

Hard dive isn’t fun to play on either end

6.5 damage with 150 HP wouldn’t really be worth it. It’s more difficult to dodge damage now, so 150 HP is wayyyyy riskier than it was pre S9. 6.5 just isn’t high enough damage to get one shot by people looking in your general direction. If we want Tracer to go back to 150, we’d be looking at something more like 7 damage. Personally I’d find it fun, as she’d be a lethal glass cannon, but I don’t think it’d be healthy for the game. Fights would turn into “Do I land the shot or does she one clip me,” and God forbid she takes you by surprise and kills you before you can even react.

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I’d be open to trying 6.75 first…. That’s 270 damage with 100% accuracy no headshots… kinda wanna l ave wiggle room for certain heroes at 275, kinda wanna see tracer live on the edge and be dangerous too…

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6.75 could be doable, but I still don’t think glass cannon Tracer is actually good for the game. The thing about Tracer that only Tracer mains seem to know is that she can’t really…kill people. She does a lot of damage if you ignore her or move predictably, but she can’t kill through healing and takes a decent amount of time to win a straight duel. That’s by design. She’s not supposed to kill, she’s supposed to force. Force you into wasting cooldowns, pay attention to her, etc.

A hero with Tracer’s mobility and actual lethality would certainly not be fun to face.

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Thank you for acknowledging my queen Brig

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This is what players don’t understand about dive metas: they are usually very coordinated, leaving less flexibility for player expression.

When you play at ranks where you take that coordination for granted (more or less), other heroes are basically impossible to play, or at least very difficult.

I personally hate playing into hard dive metas because, while I can play heroes like Tracer and Genji, I don’t like it having to be “all in or nothing”. It’s like playing Freja — using all your abilities in a burst, then afk-ing quite often.

I have always liked when there’s a better mix of comps and heroes being played. Variety is best, in my opinion.

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The funny thing is, no matter how high you go on ladder, dive isn’t consistently viable in solo. The higher you get, the harder dive is to pull off while the coordination barely improves at all. We’re roughly the same rank, so I’m sure you know as well as I do that comms are non-existent.

It’s just so cancerous to be shoehorned into a role that ain’t even fun to fill in the first place.

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wow I cant… i have to agree with akj

If you’re agreeing with AKJ you should probably realize that you’re wrong :slight_smile:

I’ll confess that I’m one of those players who will rarely join comms. It’s fairly rare to have a proper dive outside of scrims.

It’s still annoying, considering it’s somehow the expectation on the ladder, even without communication.

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