Is Blizzard actually doing anything to make tanking in this game feel less like work? 6v6 fixed that…
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5v5 has never been good in this game, not even for a moment, and it will always remain bad. The only chance for this game is to permanently return to 6v6.
5v5 is a complete nonsense. This game was designed as 6v6 from the beginning and should have stayed that way. Fortunately, they are realizing their mistakes and, albeit slowly, are on the path to fixing them.
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It’s funny how so many players said 6v6 was impossible in OW2, yet when it was back for a while, everyone went on about how great it was, even better than 6v6 was in OW1. Yet Blizz still gets rid of it.
Blizz just can’t do anything right.
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Indeed. I can still have fun in 5v5 as DPS… until I’m forced to interact with a supertank. I quit playing tank over supertanks, as the role became so dumbed down and brainless that I couldn’t enjoy it. It still negatively impacts my experience when I play DPS.
Once 6v6 comes out, I will commit myself to that format entirely. I have already achieved my goal of reaching GM and T500 for every role in 5v5. I won’t miss this format in the slightest.
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5v5 solo tanking is insufferable over half the time.
It’s even worse if you actually played/liked 6v6.
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It’s so funny too because any argument people bring up about 6v6, all of the “problems” they list have nothing to do with the format, and it has everything to do with the balance and new hero designs.
It took them 8 months+ to fix multiple metas, metas in OW2 that last even a month feel like hell, imagine that but for 8 god damn months or longer. They introduced brig, bap, moira, and sigma to the game. They abandoned the game for 2 and a half years, and left in the worst meta of all time to plague the tank role that entire time they were gone. They never did anything about the hard CC plaguing the game and being one of the reasons tanking was miserable.
All those were issues with the DEV team, because quite frankly that dev team had literally no idea how to run their game. Overwatch was a happy accident. They stumbled on a gold mine, proceeded to take that gold, and toss it in the dumpster.
Now we have the same problems of balance in 5v5 on TOP of the actual format issues that the format presents. But hey at least those queue times are good!
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5v5 is and always will be the worst decision they ever made. If anyone even claims to like it then they just simply hate OW in general and are hypocritical at best.
Blizzards refusal to actually nerf the support role is why this game is so bad and dead today. Way too much babying and hand holding for people who just don’t want to play the game correctly. Support heroes never really needed anything to defend themselves with, you’re the healer, you are target #1, you die first(or you should be dying first 9 times out of 10). So listening to whiny complaints quite literally was one of their biggest mistakes.
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To give them some credit, they actually evened out the queue times by making every single role miserable to play . This especially goes for DPS, where I can queue all roles and actually get to play DPS, and then remember why no one wants to play that role anymore.
Support is low-key the most popular role now, probably because you get to play DPS but have actual value via healing your tank (and tank is more popular because it’s the only role that has any impact on a team-fight level).
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Playing the 6v6 play test made me realize how overpowered tanks are in 5v5. In 6v6 I was able to one mag tanks on soldier with no mercy pocket. That’s pretty crazy to think especially when bastion basically had the same hp as most tanks.
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Broad strokes for different folks. Ironically, I loved 5v5 best when the supports were weak back when it first launched. Or maybe it was the Open Beta, it’s been awhile.
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I want 6v6 back because I want tanks to be kicked in the nuts with huge, huge nerfs. No more Zarya moving down an entire team with full energy, because higher bubble cooldowns, less health and less damage. No more Winston just casually jumping into the backline and killing all the supports, because his bubble has less health and he mostly does tickle damage. A man can dream…
Will be tanks less powerful in 6vs6?
If they are alone going 1v2+ or 1v1 against a Reaper or any other highly proficient tank buster DPS, most tanks should be in trouble in those scenarios (unless they are playing extremely well) if we would go back to 6v6. We don’t have tons of CC anymore either, so they should absolutely enforce tanks working with the team to actually get things done even moreso than now.
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Yes, they’re brinking 6v6 back. Now, I don’t know when. Guess today 6v6 comp shows up, but I’ve not heard if that means in QP, nor do I know if it’s in any way permanent (likely not). They just need flip the switch all the way and make 6v6 default setting again. Plain and simple.
Well, of course not, because it was just a failed attempt to appease the DPS mains. The DPS complained about double shield and how “unfun” it was to shoot them, so, instead fo trying any actual balancing solutions, they just nuked the tank role.
Nope. They surely tired everything and made tank giga op and oppressive.
Super single tank has sucked all strategy and fun out of the role for me. I wanted to be an off tank player in ow1 but due to life i never had the time. Then when i finnaly got back to ow they just straight up deleted my role all together.
I try to play dps or support but the moment i have any type of interaction with a tank it just feels like based on resources alone i cant win.
A doom kills me on support and gets away with it every single time.
That wasnt the case in ow1. If a winston dove me on zen you bet i was taking him down with me!
I miss that…
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You are right that tanking in their 6v6 mode did not feel like work. It did not because after trying it for 3 games I realized it was horrible and stopped doing it. The fact that I was not doing it at all made it not feel like work.
Absolutely not and you are going to have an awakening on 6v6.
When the nostalgia wears off, we will be back to those queues and no one wanting to tank.
Having a bad Tank by your side throwing your game is way worse than you doing everything by yourself.
People dont wanna play tank regardless. It takes making the role completely busted and basically skilless dps to get people to play tank.
Not a format issue and nowadays there are for better or worse more ways to avoid and ban throwers. Also the dumb ticket system isnt in anymore.
That ticket system caused people to off role on hog just to earn dps tickets.
Also i think hero bans where always the answer looking back. Dont want a hog as your second tank? Just ban hog 
Hero bans cant come soon enough.
Not to the levels of 6v6 mate, like not even close. DPS and Support have literally 2-3 min queues. It was 10-15 in 6v6. Good luck with that.
You literally can’t have another Tank throwing off the game in 5v5. Did you actually read what I said? I said “by your side”.
It couldnt be MORE of a format issue, what are you talking about? OQ ? Because if thats your point, we are talking about a different thing and that will barely be affected by the format change.
Except for the worse of course, aka More Spam/CC and less readability.