I’m gold 4 now rightly so and frst time I’ve suspected a cheater in like 2 years of this game but this guy went something like 44-3 20k damage in a relatively quick match, still comp and had insane amount of headshots but other occasions fighting tanks close up couldn’t hit them, like he was missing enough shots to think it’s just a great player so if was aimbotting it can’t be constant must be foot pedal activated.
If not aimbotting this guy is literal god at the game check it out see what you think, the fun starts after the first death.
This is on console incase you think it’s a PC player.
Dont think he is cheating but clearly has good aim. Some of his headshots were pretty insane at longer ranges which I think is quite difficult to do as a Cass. Probably a masters player smurfing in gold because there are a ton of them in OW lol.
Report him because smurfs should have their accounts banned.
Ok, one other thing should clarify is this was console incase you think he is on key board mouse in pc lobby, probably is using chronus or something though at the least.
I watched the second point onwards and nothing he does seems suspicious. He’s not playing around any information he shouldn’t have and his aim seems natural, just good.
He definitely struggles when someone gets close to him and moves erratically, which would indicate he’s aiming naturally (probably at a low sensitivity). An aimbot wouldn’t miss nearly as many of those shots on a Lucio jumping around, let alone the amount I saw him whiff on everyone else.
What got me convinced before watching back was the three times in a row walking out spawn got deleted, I knew at that point was f’d and obviously watching the kill feed and seeing him kill tanks and everything else, all the headshots appearing was like no way, never seen anything like it but watched it back and saw enough misses to make me not so sure.
If it’s the scene I’m remembering, he had a pretty good streak there. But he’s clearly used to playing at that specific range, when he’d have people lined up like that he’d have incredible aim, but he’d struggle at closer ranges.
Which is why I’m leaning towards natural. A cheater wouldn’t have those kind of inconsistencies in play.
Yeah was the play I think he was hovering the forklift area where the stairs are between our team and spawn it was smart play and we were all just getting deleted.
Wait a minute am I talking to awkward, like the streamer I’ve spent hundreds of hours watching YouTube video of, surely not?
I’m just a big fan of his aggressive gameplay, he’s a demon on every single character.
Like when in that match all that was going through my head was awkward isn’t even that good when he’s one of the best in world but here’s this controller player in gold.
i dont know… i mean, the cheats are becoming so hard to detect now days, but, ill say, for someone on a single shot character like mcree, when i see someone getting 3, 4, and 5 headshots in a row…like this guy does…it makes me start to wonder. And it’s not just once, you can go through and listen for the “plink” and this guy, frequently, is getting multi headshots in a row. Plus, you have the classic tell tale sign, where at the start of each round, their character doesnt move…now this could be them just afk, getting a drink, I understand that, but it also can be an indicator when they have their cheat program up, making adjustments. Considering how this guy is just going thorugh and mowing people down, id be curious to see his accuracy and also his headshot accuracy.
He very well could be just very good, but, from my point of view, his accuracy, and especially his headshot accuracy seems a little suspect. Then again, maybe good players are just that accurate and its surprising to low level players like myself, who dont normally see that kind of accuracy…
i dont know, these aimbot programs are getting smarter, to where they mimic natural human input. They are getting to the point where the whole concept of the aimbot is to NOT look like you’re aimbotting, i.e., there is a programmed tolerance so that you WILL miss sometimes, as to not draw suspicion.
You may be right though, might be a masters smurfing in lower lobbies, but, if his aim is ineed legit, he has done some damn fine work in perfecting his tracking abilities because, damn…
yeah, it’s the nature of these games now. Unfortunatley, cheating has become such a problem that now, anyone with genuine skill is looked at suspiciously, not because they’re good, but because trust in people playing these games is getting lower and lower due to the prevalence of cheaters.
Very interesting reply, the bit about aimbots being programmed to miss and mimic makes me back at 50-50 maybe even a bit more in favour of cheating now tbh, the accuracy and amount of headshots is just a bit too much to believe and I’m forever watching the top guys on YouTube where you pretty much only see the best bits and even they don’t look as good as this guy does.
Doesnt look anything too crazy. Maybe ximmer maybe not, but i dont see anything super aimbotty. Also i dont think in console ‘aim bots’ and the like are really a thing, but ximming is an issue.
I dont play on console but sometimes in crossplay lobbies on pc and this doesnt look what a high level ximmer would, either.
People on the replay are often making themselves easy targets by just walking in quite straight line - very common in gold.
yeah, and im not saying this guy IS aimbotting, but i am saying, he is either a smurf and just VERY VERY good, like T500 material, or he’s got something running.
But yeah, the people who program these cheats are building them with the ability to modify your accuracy. If you have the cheat programmed up to max level, where your character is hard locking every target, its easy to detect and your account will be banned. So now they make the cheats where you can program it to miss every so often and also it wont hard lock like a “snap to head” hard lock but rather, it will aim for you, but move your reticle to the target in a more natural way, all to help avoid detection. At least this is the way I understand it from reading posts on these forums over the years.
Thats a good point, if you go on youtube and watch T500 McRee gameplay, youll see great accuracy, but even they are not making those kinds of headshots. If this guy played like them, where he was hitting a lot of shots but his headshots were fewer and far between, like the players i see in the T500 videos, it would be more believable, but it’s not, this guy is tapping multi headshots in a row, quite often, a feat that you dont even see the T500 guys on youtube do.
Now, maybe being on console, its different? I do know there is aim assist on console, but im not sure if it would account for his kind of accuracy. If it did, then there is a whole other argument that needs to be made about console players in PC lobbies…if the aim assist is THAT good.
It’s hard for me, because i dont want to come right out and accuse anyone of cheating, but at the same time, knowing these cheats are easy to get and fairly common to use, when you see something like this, it makes you suspicious
Dunno to me they really dont look that good. Decent, but, if it’s all golds on the enemy team for him, then this kind of gameplay can be expected even from say high diamond.
Not really that important what their rank is, but a t500 player would obilerate even harder.
You have to keep in mind if a t500 is playing in t500 lobby, it is a completely different game. T500 people have vastly better movement, and aim, which puts a lot more pressure on the t500 cassidy player to:
not get shot themselves
actually hit shots because people move better
catch people off guard because t500 people have tons of better awareness and positioning
People often disregard this because when you just watch the gameplay of a player in that t500 lobby it may seem “normal” because all the players are on the same skill level. But if you throw a gold player in that t500 lobby they will not get anything done.
In other words, a t500 cassidy may well have even 40+% crit accuracy in a gold lobby.
Throw them back in t500 lobby and their crit accuracy drops a ton.
Can I just mention a lot of the OW content consumed is whatever hero to grandmaster so often see these top players vs low level and still it’s not as accurate with headshots as this guy, it’s just really suspicious and I’m never one for calling out cheating I’m more a just get gud type of guy.
but thats not always the case. watch these youtube videos where they go from unranked to T500. Their placement matches will initially be in…likely gold. Even there they are not hitting headshots like the guy in this video.
I mean I understand that not every aimbot is going to be a super obvious 100% headshot spinbot, but I’m going to lead towards the conclusion that someone playing like a masters player is probably just a masters player smurfing and not someone using an ultra sophisticated cheat to emulate being a master player to smurf.
sure, and i get it, nobody is REALLY going to ever know, and I would be 100% on board with you, if it werent for all the head shot the guy was getting. Ive watched Unranked to T500 vidoes and even those guys arent getting headshots like that.