By “proper counter” I mean capable of beating Doomfist, but having to out-skill him to do so (unlike Sombra, Mei, and Torbjorn).
50-bash-damage Brigitte was the only hero ever capable of throwing down with Doomfist.
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50 bash was kinda ridiculous though… that was literally the only thing i didn’t like about launch Brig. Everything else was cool tho.
It was kinda garbage for everyone else though. 2 swings and the combo and you ded.
Rally?
90 degree shield bash angle was something I also don’t miss.
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Orisa Hog McCree and Reaper exist
Also brig didn’t counter him
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I find shooting the Doomfist until his health reaches zero is pretty effective.
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Right i forgot Sombra existed
And the extra 45 damage from the bash didnt really help Brig counter DF any better
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Bash has a 5 meter range, Rocket Punch has up to a 20m range.
If you managed to hit with Bash, that’s 50 damage, plus Whipshot at 75 damage, plus a melee strike at 35 damage. That’s about 160 damage off 250 health. Genji delivers more damage that with a single headshot and a swiftstrike.
Still, for a support with no chance of critical hits, that’s an incredible amount of burst on relatively low cooldowns. Not something that should’ve been allowed.
Yeah because Brigette was the best counter and not Mei, Sombra
Just nerf doomfist. Done.
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You have a weird definition of “proper counter”. You seem to think that only outskilling someone counters them. Brig countered an entire meta without requiring much skill, is that not a proper counter?
155 damage actually, and Brigitte is probably going to feed Doomfist some shields.
I never said that Brigitte countered Doomfist by guaranteeing his swift death with zero skill; that’s what Sombra, Mei and Torbjorn do.
Brigitte countered Doomfist because attacking anyone near Brigitte in melee was a terrible idea when she had her 155 damage combo (your target gets instant healing and armour, you take massive damage and get launched away).
Doomfist could only target people far from Brigitte, and Brigitte herself.
If he targeted Brigitte herself, then he’d find that if her reaction speeds are fast enough, there’s little he can do. A fast-reacting Brigitte is immune to everything in his kit but quick melee and uppercut.
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Bashing through barriers was super fun too…
Reverting the bash damage nerf would have no effect on the Doomfist match-up.
You’d still either stun his rocket punch and have him escape or die trying, she’s a bad match-up for Doomfist.
How exactly does Mei automatically kill a Doomfist with no skill? Doomfist’s abilities ignore her freeze slow.
2 options as a support imo for doomfist actually 3.moira…but your team dies
If you want to directly counter him and prevent death on your team play 1)ana or 2) Lucio.
He’s a large hitbox hero with animations that lock him in a set trajectory… Sleeps darts arnt hard to land on him.
Lucio can wall ride right above him constantly outside of he reach…and if he down slams then upercuts… Boop him upward… he’s useless there and stuck in the air.
Last option…Moira has fade and can evad…but you will not be able to save your team mates from doomfist.