5 stack + solo VS 6 Stack

Who the hell thought that this is freaking fair? Why the hell do I need to queue and be put with a 5 stack, all in their own voice chat and deal with a freaking 6 stack. I don’t care that large groups have higher queuing times, this is no excuse to ruin a match for a solo player, that has nothing to do with such high stack.

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you want them to remove 5 stacks?

so if I unfortunately enough to not have 5 other friends always online all the time and we happen to be 1 person short, we should never able to get the queue for a game?

Or you want to propose a solution to make this work?

btw jk2l if you have 5 friends online and they all join you are a 6 stack because 5 friends + you = 6

sorry my bad, I mean “unfortunately enough to not have 5 other friends” I missed the “not” in the sentence

but you are right he didn’t propose a solution

also for the record, I never use Overwatch voice chat because after so many years they still can’t fix a simple issue. and my keyboard seems to be too loud that always get picked by in-game voice chat.

Also, I hate to use push to talk, I personally can’t focus to use push to talk at the same time as playing. So either give me a no push to talk and allow me to adjust mic sensitivity or I will never, ever, ever ever use the Overwatch in-game chat.

For playing with my friends I can always use discord which allows me to adjust mic sensitivity (and also any other online game allow me to do it). same with some other friend I got, we almost never use in-game voice due to how broken it is.

Wtf? are you guys high? I never said that it would make 5 stacking impossible, 5 stack + solo vs 5 stack + solo is fair, that’s how it should be, but it shouldn’t be 5 stack + solo vs a 6 stack.

There is a solution here, and it’s called common sense.

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so if there is no other 5 stack + solo, then we never get a match? it is already taking ages to find a match against 6 stacks. if even 6 stacks is removed off queue it will take forever

That is the risk you have to take when you queue as a 6 stack, or as a 5 stack. It even says at the top when you high stack, that the queue times will be longer. Do you suggest that an innocent player’s game should be ruined because a group can’t find a match, even though they know that queue times are long?

yea it is also a risk for you as solo to join a 5 stacks. maybe get a friend and stop whining

I believe the point that’s being made is that in a 5+1 v 6 situation, the lone solo Q player is at a disadvantage. This is because 4+ stacks are far less likely to join VC.

  • In a 5+1 v 5+1 it’s fine, because both sides have 1 unfortunate player
  • In a 4+1+1 v 6 it’s bad, but not terrible, because at least there’s a reasonable possibility of the 2 solos working together
  • In a 3+2+1 v 6 it’s okay because the stacks are small enough to increase the chances of them joining VC

But in a 5+1v 6 it’s highly probable that the solo player will be the only one in the game unable to communicate, and that’s an unfair disadvantage

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I’d say all the following are fair matchups for a 5+1:

  • 5+1 v 5+1
  • 5+1 v 4+2
  • 5+1 v 4+1+1
  • 5+1 v 3+3
  • 5+1 v 3+2+1
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in a way you also isolating the 6stacks too. which is bad. overwatch try to promote team play but if being in a 6 stacks make it difficult to match then it will just discourage people to do so

The other question is was it a genuine premade 6 stack or a group randos who went yea we did good let’s stick as a team

For 6 stacks I’d say:

6 v 3+2+1
6 v 3+3
6 v 4+2
6 v 4+1+1
6 v 6

It’s not a matter of trying to isolate them at all, it’s just trying to remove 6 v 5+1 because it is unfair to that 1 solo Q where even a 4+1+1 isn’t because the 2 solos can work together even if the 4 stack stays in their own chat

If you can, put toggle on E. Put your Ability 2 on your front mouse button. (If you can.)

It’s a quick tap, talk, tap to mute. I love it that way

it’s not about where is the button, it’s the part I need to spend extra attention to press the button. it takes away my attention from games. I tried to use it, but I rather not use it then use it.

it’s either fixes mic sensitivity or in-game voice chat is dead to me.

Solo queue is already a joke where the winner of 30% of your matches is decided before the match begins due to Trolls, Leavers, Smurfs etc. There’s absolutely no reason to add another parameter for that. 6 stack vs 6 stack is the most fair match anyone can ever achieve in OW, obviously there has to be a price to be able to play such fair match. Also, after LFG was introduced it was easier to find 6 stack matches. But after all, it’s still no reason to ruin one person’s game because people decided to group up despite queue times.

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Yes. they should split the game into solo and group (6player) mode.

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