I don’t really like Doomfist. But this is way too overboard.
4 nerfs to each part of his kit with NO compensation at all?
I’m sorry but what?
IMO He needs at least one of the slam nerfs to be taken away or a buff to compensate.
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They could just give him the Brig treatment and increase his damage slightly. Nothing serious, maybe another 5 damage for every part of the combo. Balance.
This ptr seemed rushed. It would have made more sense to test one or two of the nerfs and seen how they played out, not 4 at once.
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I agree. They didn’t even nerf the part most people wanted nerfed. The shield gain.
I would be suprised if he isn’t going to get some buffs after they realised they made him useless
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I would like the Tracer ulti to return to the 400 points of damage, and not the 300 points of damage now
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Notice how he is worse now than his F-Tier status back when he was released.
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its what they do, its actually quite rare they both take away an add to a character in the same patch as in actual balancing. its a horrible trend where they continue to take things away bit by bit then suddenly they they break the character into irrelevancy by accident because they gave nothing back.
I wouldn’t be surprised if both doom and brig lose considerable picks and win rates in the coming months, it certainly happened to roadhog, it eventually happened to mercy, you can argue it happened to ana and bastion and proably a couple of other character that received nothing but nerfs to the point its not worth picking them no more.
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He already one-shots most heroes in the game. So, unlike the Brig buff, giving Doom 5 damage is literally useless in 90% of circumstances.
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How would you nerf something if your replacing the power being taken away??? Doom should of never been nerfed in the first place but you cant make a thing weaker if you just move the power somewhere else
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Really don’t want to be one of “those guys” but…
Mercy says hi.
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He is the most broken hero currently in the game. Everything is justified.
And he still has the random cheese one shot punch, which didn’t get nerfed, but is extremely infuriating to play against.
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Widow is the most broken hero currently in the game. Getting nerfed into the ground would be justified. She still has the random cheese one shot from across the map, which won’t get nerfed, but is extremely infuriating to play against.
See? We can do this to you, too.
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Mercy 2.0 was literally the most overpowered hero this game has ever seen.
Even after like 10 nerfs she was still a must pick healer.
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Also, don’t forget Mercy had only a couple nerfs at a time with at least a month of playtime between each of them to see how they affected her. Plus they were all relatively small by themselves. Not 4 huge ones all together.
You can copy the structure of my arguments, but you can’t copy the substance.
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Except I just did, because you gave no substance. You always forget that saying “thats how it is” without any actual data, proof, or reasoning outside of emotions isn’t “substance” nor is it fact.
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i think you misread me cause I agree with you, thouhg shifting power into part of a characters kit could make them weaker if that part of the kit is underwhelming IE placing mercy old healing power back into her ult despite the fact that many mercy mains agree its an underwhelming ult before the nerf. or now with brif get a little bit more healing from her passive even thouhgt its the least talked about part of her kit…
i mean I argue doom should been nerfed, honestly I think he should of never been added i felt we already had too many character that spent most of their game time jumping behind the back line to burst and harass the supports, we had sombra not long before him and tracer and geengi at the time had immensely more power then compared to now. but that just me and biased opinion towards hyper mobile twits this game keeps pumping out.
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And some of that was because the other healers needed buffs, as evidenced by her plummet the second she had actual competition on top of a nerf.
Two heroes could save a tank from a walk, only two. They both were equally overused. Now four of them reliably can, and while Brig cannot her role is very different from the others.
Its actually more than 4 nerfs
Uppercut got its CC reduced
Slam Distance: (this is the big one)
. This nerfs also Dmg, Mobility and Survivability
. It also removes a lot of the flanking routes and jumps you can do, which forces you to use more resources which Doomfist cant really afford)
Slam CC removal:
. This makes really hard to start the combo at all.
Ult change:
Its a nerf against everything, the ability already had trouble killing anything besides 2 heroes and now is just plain impossible
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There’s actually another one that hardly anybody is talking about. They’ve patched out almost all of his rooftop spots, making it impossible to perch himself in these super sneaky spots for a quick flank or 125 slam.