4 nerfs later, Mei and Reaper

Mei is still meta and played in OWL.

Along with Reaper and 2x barrier.

It’s nice to see that the moment McCree and Rein are banned, the easiest heroes in the game make a comeback.

Maybe, just maybe, Mei and Reaper are overtuned?

Almost like CC on primary fire is too strong no matter how much you nerf the wall and Reaper well the idea of a hero countering ALL tanks and having such generous escape ability is too much.

Tuned in to see some Tracer/Soldier/Winston action, can’t say I was disappointed! /s

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Reaper does not counter all tanks. Maybe with a Mei, but even then, that is a bit of a stretch regardless. Orisa exists.

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OWL doesn’t matter. They have coaches, best players in the world, play with each other for months on end. Both mei AND reaper are garbage in ladder (especially reaper). And are you OWL? No. I’d say its probably because you just hate those heroes and using OWL as an excuse.

Reaper is F tier above plat right now, and Meis just meh. Neither needs nerfs.
If anything, reaper could use BUFFS.

He isn’t even a must pick in OWL? He has 11% pickrate…

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The problem is on the ladder Reaper and Mei are sort of terrible. I usually consider seeing either one a free win. Even in OWL, I am pretty sure most of their eligibility stemmed from play rates from the week before rather than this week, because I barely saw either one (OWL takes 2 weeks of Data which is why Echo was only at 45% pick rate for the ban eligibility despite being in 90% of the matches).

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u what? Reaper is crazy strong right now the problem is that hitscan gods hate going to Reaper Jail.

One way to win the game is killing their DPS and supports, and that’s what most DPS players go for. The other way is kill their tanks faster than they kill your tanks. And what can a Pharah do vs a Reaper who just killed both your tanks. Jump on the point? I don’t think so.

When I really wanna win, I go Reaper and it works 80% of the times. I’m 3500-3700 on DPS. Reaper is 1 of those picks that works until it doesn’t because he’s a cheese hero but as long as he works he’s insane strong.

Has very decent ult, too.

Mei… let’s just cut it short and say that forcing the enemy Rein to shieldbot as your Rein swings by holding M1 is strong yeah? Not to mention she has arguably the best DPS ult in the game.

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I’m not interested in anecdotes, sorry.
Reaper is statistically garbage right now, your experiences mean nothing.

Do you know anything about reaper?
The best player (spirit) only uses it to confirm kills/solo ult. The ultimate is garbage. Any form of CC or snipers or focus fire or literally anything makes it useless.

I’m not gonna talk Mei, because I dont have much playtime on her. But I can see her stats aren’t great right now.

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I watched a little bit of OWL this weekend and I saw lots of Winston, ocassionally Tracer.

Mei/Reaper are showing up in deathball in certain maps, dive in others where Echo is played.

Seems like a nice spot to be.

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stats are not the be-all-end-all particularly when this game is mostly noobs playing it.

Sorry you can’t see value in Reaper and think he’s trash, GMs disagree with you, OWL disagrees with you maybe you’re just bad at the hero.

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GM this month:
Reaper: 0.49% pick, 52% win
This is well below average

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I think Mei really became meta and oppresive /OP when her primary got the multi freeze Buff!
She recieved allot of nerfs already and yet that multi freeze was not changed but were all wondering why she still strong up to this point?

I think blizzard overnerfed some of her kit that isnt part of what makes her OP and if it happens that they nerf her multi freeze, she will dive down to trash tier so quick that she cant come back again until they revert some of her nerfs.

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Gms disagreed with us when we told them that 50% lifesteal Reaper was OP. We were told to get good. Wonder how it felt when 2/2/2 came and Reaper ended up the best dps?

Also counter point, Mei has a 44% winrate in GM. If they disagree with us maybe they can show us Meis potential by winning on her?

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I mean they’re probably getting banned because they’re stronger than most heroes otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing said heroes in the thread, randomness has a factor to play in hero bans but these ones actually made some sense.

It’s funny how everyone says this but Reinhardt exists. Sigma also has a slight pull effect on his M1. There’s also the fact that you keep calling them easy heroes despite the fact these heroes on ladder are doing poorly and only become useful in coordinated play.

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Quite large difference in degree.

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It’s CC nonetheless and it’s enough to knock Lucio off the wall.

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I don’t know why people cry abput Mei and Reaper so much.

They literally have below average pick and winrates.

They are basically only played in OWL which I assume, none of ya’ll are part of.

These heroes literally only work with insane teamwork and in certain situations as the stats clearly show us.

They are easily countered on ladder, git gud.

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Nor Rein nor Sigma stun and slow with their primary fires.

Stop ignoring that. You’re comparing a fart with getting CO2 poisoning.

I think Echo wins by a long margin.

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He said CC on primary fire is too strong. I’m just using them as examples as to why it’s dumb to say that, especially with the fact Mei has had it since launch and it was never really an issue up until now. Which even then most of her power comes from her walls.

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Meis ult being the best dps ult in game is HILARIOUS. It’s a zoning ult. It’s not supposed to capture people in it, unless they are halted or graved in it’s range. It’s very easy to escape otherwise

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She can literally just have the best ult in the game WITH a second life and the potential to earn 2 of them. Echo just has the best period and it will basically never be replaced. It is our new bestest ult, foreva.

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