Hi, I am an old player from the original overwatch, I would like to ask, as it seems much more difficult to rank, how do you overcome your teammates losing you the game, SO often.
I am carrying, I will make a swap when beneficial, to whatever. Yet, its just not possible in some close games to come out with the win, despite a heroic effort that leaves everyone stunned. Typically i have 5 or less deaths, around 30 to 50 kills in these matches. Not everymatch mind you, but I am trying to rank up at this point, bc I am bored as hell with bronze through plat. I was masters in 2016, and the gameplay is boring now. Noone is ult comboing, 99% of the time, and its hard to carry the dps and the tanks as healer.
Can anyone recommend something i can do that im potentially overlooking? Or, is Overwatch 2 just a different beast entirely?
I bet you a team of todays golds could defeat a 2016 master.
there’s just too many new maps and heros and even the hero’s you don’t know have been reworked or slowly changed in ways that make them new to you.
Put in the hours to climb.
Next I don’t think it takes much longer to climb now than it did in 2016. Even though we don’t have a visible SR the rank system pretty much works the same if you think about it it’s just displayed in a terrible way now… i’ll save text and not bother explaining the differences though but basically
if you just assume for the sake of argument every single game of OW will either win you 20% or lose you 20% (it can be higher or lower with modifiers like win streaks or uphill battle etc) but just take 20% per win/loss ok?
Now go look at your current win rate and let’s say for the sake of discussion it’s 55%.
If you play 200 games (again for sake of simplicity and discussion let’s say every game is 15 minutes of IRL time including que time, match time and re-queing for next match) that’s 50 IRL hours of your time. If you maintained 55% win rate for that whole 50 hours and 200 games you are up a total of 10 games so if you were let’s say silver 5… those 10 games you won made you silver 3 now.
If you play 50 hours a week at that rate for an entire season you will rank up from silver 5 to you will probably only make it to plat at best and this assumes the entire season you didn’t reach your plateau and your win rate never dipped down to 50% where it belongs.
You need to have actual meaningful breakthroughs in your gameplay to rank up quickly. Most people are where they should be so their win rates are +/- 50% so their rank never really changes much over a season - but if you really are a master player in bronze/plat lobbies I see no reason for you to eventually climb back to masters once you get a feel for the new heros/maps and new metas.
1 less player means your actions contribute more to a win/loss but also the 4 other player’s actions contribute more to a win/loss
If you have bad teammates there is literally nothing you can do to swing the game in your favour. Its impossible because statistically everything is working against you
1 leaver or thrower has more of a negative impact on your match since they now make up 1/5 of the team compared to 1/6 in ow1
The best way to climb in ow2 is just play lots and get lucky. The more you play the more likely you are to climb. No player putting in less than 10 hrs a season is getting very far because in those 10hrs you will likely only go up a net 25sr after you sift through all the leavers and thrower games.
You have to sink in 100+ hrs a season to even move the needle. Thats why streamers are some of the top players because they play all day everyday. Most people sit at 50-52% win rate. So even after 100 games you probably only have gone up 25-50sr more than you lost. You have to sink 1000’s of matches in to actually move your rank
Even if you have a 55% win rate which is super high and unrealistic. After 100 games you will have only gone up ~100sr.
This basically sums it up. That’s all comp is – putting in hours.
Yup those ranks are really boring. You’re not wrong. You have to spend a lot of time to get out of plat because it’s a mixed bag of skill levels, it’s basically gold+ until you reach plat1 and even then it’s not much better.
Do you have any replay codes you can share? Perhaps with that we can give some additional insights to help you get out of the metal ranks.
thanks for your reply, id say when i rank up, I rank up faster than that, as far as my win rate, but I seem to hit loss streaks where im doing everything i can and people are saying things like they dont know what z does, they dont know the ult combos; basically they shouldnt be in comp and i remember in 2016 how it was, and tbh I truly believe the majority of players were more into working as a team then (even as toxic as it was) There is increase by magnitude of apathetic throwing going on these day- just my op.
I think what you said it good advice. Honestly, I cant put in even 10 hours a week of gameplay as I just dont have that kind of time anymore.
Play Tracer or Sombra for DPS, PLAY BAP, or Larry for SUPP, and play ball or hog for tank. Or alternatively, play with friends who are competent players.
If you understand the ins and outs of the game already, then there’s no point in trying to work with a team that doesn’t understand anything and is, to put it bluntly, useless.
If you deserve to be a higher rank, then you should be able to easily climb with those characters I mentioned. They’re easily the best characters to use to get out of low elo because they don’t require much teamwork and can get immense amounts of value.
This strat isn’t going to cut it once you start getting into mid-diamond+, where players start turning their monitors on, though. Just something to keep in mind.
Are these your KDs? What happened to 30-50 kills? Watched more…you killed someone this game. Not KDs. What exactly are these?
This ain’t a code
So I’m two codes in…what exactly is the problem? You’re not outperforming your teams in these games. You don’t have the aim or positioning of a Masters player. You’re not playing nearly aggressive enough on Ana, and you’re not playing the right positions on DPS.
You’re where you belong. That’s all. If you want to get out of these ranks, you’re gonna have to get good enough to climb out
you dont, well all you can do is be better that them, then play the averages.
but even t500’s lose tons of games ranking up cause there is literally nothing they can do.
ill tell you a story about the last time i climbed to masters, i won 15 matches in a row, it got me 2 skill tiers and a bit… after 10 wins i was already getting people so bad, they must have come from silver (nothing wrong with silver, unless you are in diamond+ lobbies), so after winning 2 more after that, suddenly i started getting bad+toxic players when all i had been was nice to people.
moral of the story, you dont play OW for any reason other than you like it, ranked is not a competitive environment (anyone who plays IRL sports knows), you dont play cause its balance is good…
you play because you like the game, forget the rest.
Tanks run the game now. If you have any tank main friends that are high ranked, have them start a new account and duo-queue with them when they are comp eligible on it. Enable your tank and protect your co-support and you’ll climb.
DPS aren’t relevant in matches below diamond. Give the DPS a bit of attention when they ult and keep them alive if they aren’t actively feeding… and it doesn’t detract from supporting your tank/co-support.
The matchmaking is rigged. they have patents on technology for their deceitful “matchmaking” system.
basically it’s designed to prioritize “player engagement” first, and actual matchmaking second. Whatever that means, it’s their words. They’re a greedy corporation, let your mind fill in the blanks of how they would benefit from this case.
