120 FPS vs 300 FPS

Wyoming knows his stuff:

Clearly not. I also reported him for trolling as I sincerely hope he isnā€™t be serious. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Dont take it personally, itā€™s just an expression.

It is 100% not a placebo effect. The difference between 72hz and 144hz is as obviously different as red and blue.

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Itā€™s rude and inappropriate.

Youā€™ve obviously convinced yourself that itā€™s a massive difference and worth whatever price you paid for it so thereā€™s no use in further discussion.

There is, though. This isnā€™t just me ā€œconvincing myself it was worth it.ā€ Like itā€™s such a massive and obvious difference and literally everyone else Iā€™ve ever met, including like 99.99% of the people on this forum other than you have said the same thing.

Iā€™m saying it because I think youā€™re doing something wrong if you canā€™t tell a difference. If you think the difference is so tiny that itā€™s unnoticeable or a placebo effect, then you almost certainly have your game/monitor configured wrong.

Yes it is.

Lots of people do fall for marketing jargon.

No Iā€™m not. I have a 144hz monitor. Itā€™s set to 144hz. The game is configured perfectly fine.

People donā€™t see in frames per second. They detect change in light. A human can easily detect a change in light that only appeared for 1/300th of a second. That doensā€™t mean having 300 frames per second is useful. Anything above 120 fps has pointless levels of diminishing returns as human reaction time canā€™t even respond anyway.

I donā€™t know what to tell you, then. I honestly dont know what to tell you if you think itā€™s just marketing. Literally everyone but you has said the same thing, but sure, itā€™s just marketing jargon and every single person ever except you has fallen victim to it.

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Wyoming is a technical expert and he agrees.

300FPS burns a hell of a lot more CPU cycles. Thatā€™s about it.

Wyoming is a super nice guy who is very helpful at times, but he is not by any means a technical expert.

Wyoming Myst most valuable player technical support

Thatā€™s what it says under his name.

This is the problem with giving random people a fancy title. It makes people believe they are experts for no reason. At any rate. Flagging Hulk for trolling.

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This is a myth.

Nerves in your eye can fire between 300-1000 a second. Itā€™s debatable that you can see 1000 fps but they can perceive 200-300 fps with repeatable consistent results. No one really has a answer of what fps your eye is at. Itā€™s not 30 fps tho but it could between 100 and 1000.

Iā€™ll end with a basic experiment when flashed an image for 1/220 the of second not only did the person see the flash they saw the image consistently.

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Actually the research shows that the human eye can only process up to about 90 frames per second.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/12/22/why-do-we-need-120hz144hz-monitors-if-the-human-eye-cant-see-beyond-60hz/

https://www.healthline.com/health/human-eye-fps#:~:text=Some%20experts%20will%20tell%20you,and%2060%20frames%20per%20second

https://www.pcgamer.com/how-many-frames-per-second-can-the-human-eye-really-see/

in more regular terms [Jordan DeLong, assistant professor of psychology at St Josephā€™s College in Rensselaer] feels that the drop-off in people being able to detect changes in smoothness in a screen lies at around 90Hz

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Iā€™m not really sure why the user included a 120fps comparison since youtube only does 60fps playback. It will probably fool a lot of people into thinking there is no difference.

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This forum wonā€™t let me post images, but whatever. Anyone with eyes can determine with absolute certainty the difference between 30, 60 and 120 frames per second.

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I have a low latency and low fps monitor. ^^" But NVidia is great also. (60fps monitor, and reported 0.6ms latency, the one I have is smooth enough for me.)

So I just tested 30fps half refresh rate adaptive sync with NVIDIA driver level 30 FPS cap on a 60hz monitor and itā€™s perfectly smooth

Honestly donā€™t need more than that

The only problem is the input lag

What actually matters more than frame rate is regular frame time intervals

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