🏓 Why are people posting about Hong Kong? [Explanation]

Blizzard President should step down.

Is that a divisive statement, Blizzard?

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“Which by law needs to be legislated upon”.

The law can be made by China…

I’m sorry but I don’t think you’re using the word, “legislated” correctly because I read the above as:

“Which by law needs to be made/enacted upon”

I’m saying that China can just write up a new law and pass it through without much effort since again, HK is apart of China. They’re also the ones responsible for HK’s constitution.

Blizzard doesn’t care about its fans since Activision came in. Their main priority is money, just like china’s. If they had to choose us and china, they will ditch us. So bashing them any further won’t do anything but push them away.

The appropriate response would have been a fine, because everyone at least understands that what was said put Blizzard in a tight spot.

But this…

Yeah. Pretty sure they will punish people for supporting a specific country during the world cup.

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No, the appropriate response would have been for them to remind the player that this might not have been the platform for his comments and then moved on.

Doing this in private, I might add.

Dragging the player through the mud with their actions was uncalled for.

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" …brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image… " is the quote from the ToS. Supporting a large scale protest against the government of China is likely to offend the Chinese people (or others) that support the Chinese government (a group of the public). To follow, the exact part of the ToS states the punishment for this is, specifically, “…removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD, in addition to other remedies…”

It’s just part of the rulebook. Even the punishment was written in advance of the incident. Their “stance” is just that they wrote a rule and enforced it, not knowing who they would be using it against and when. Just happened to be someone supporting Hong Kong that broke the rule first.

When we pull on their purse strings for the next quarter. They’ll change their tune.

Penalizing a player for code of conduct is one thing, but what happened was extreme. It was obviously to make an example of Blitzchung.

So many people including myself are completely appalled at Blizzards reaction. People are unsubscribing and deleting games en masse because of this.

When interpreted through the lens of China his statement is one of dissent.
When interpreted through the lens of Hong Kong, it’s a statement of solidarity.

‘just’ nothing.

People don’t live to go follow rules for no reason. Rules are made by people to make things better.

And when a rule is used to trash someone in the name of making money over their basic human rights, it’s time for the rule to go.

Rules that are garbage are meant to be broken, should be broken, and when they aren’t worth anything because the point they were trying to accomplish is instead used to hurt people who are exercising their rights, then there’s nothing about the rule worth following.

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If you learn more about other countries you will find some are very xenophobic and that may seem normal in that country but it is offensive to others. This is politics in a nutshell people will always have conflicting beliefs especially between countries but not limited to other countries.

I lived in Japan and Korea enough to know.

I’m saying on an international stage, their interpretation of disrepute ceases to make sense. It depends on who’s side you take.

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what about the casters then? where in the rules does it state they would be punished for something out of their control?

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There are no sides. Just because you choose a side doesn’t make it right or wrong usually money decides unless it’s personal.

The casters are the ones that told him to do it.

It’s not a basic human right to use a game tournament interview to promote a political opinion.

Yeah, maybe it is, did you think about that?

Did you think it also might just be a trash rule?

You go right ahead and support it if you want. I think you are straight up stupid for supporting it, just due to what’s going on in Hong Kong and definitely ignorant. But that’s your right, to be that way, which I support. I wouldn’t want someone fined and suspended from a league for disagreeing with your point of view, like you would.

So, let me just be clear about it all, in my book you are a pathetic person if you have to support a rule that stops people from expressing support for the Hong Kong protesters in a game, and have to leave politics out of games because you are so sensitive that you can’t handle MAGA hats, kneeling at games, and protesting a country that is high on the list of human rights violations for what they are doing.

Those people, those companies that do that, are not worth participating in. And the best way to show that is to pull your money from them.

If Blizzard doesn’t want their players to talk politics in interviews, why should we force them to allow it? It’s their platform. They’re paying for it. They make the rules. They even said they’re fine with players expressing their opinions elsewhere, just not in an official interview. I support Hong Kong and I still think the guy broke the rules and got the punishment that was deserved, despite agreeing with him.

I want politics to be left out of games specifically because of stuff like this. Now a bunch of people want to bankrupt Blizzard because of a pre-written rule with a pre-determined punishment that they acted on. I’d much rather people not be looking to punish all of the devs and other workers for whatever mistake they believe management made. Management won’t suffer from attacks on Blizzard, only the expendable workers (like the ones that went on strike to protest).

It’s all useless hostility directed at the wrong thing out of convenience.

Honsetly, I don’t think its misdirected at all. While I appreciate your point of view, we’re talking a very specific case here. And there was truly nothing at all offensive about the text, certainly not suspended and $10,000 taken away from you offensive.

To penalize someone like that, it is clearly unjust. You could have the player remove the text, you could fine him. But the stern punishment, and the source of the outrage, is beyond politics not in a game. It is clearly an attempt by Blizzard to fall in line with the Chinese government in the name of money. Frankly, I think Blizzard was totally idiotic and made the wrong move given all their options.

This was handled by people who had no idea what they were doing, and I think the fallout in that case is justified. If a company can’t be both profitable, and also protect their players, then maybe that’s a company that should get the right to keep pushing their games.

Now, in real life, I expect that your not going to have Blizzard collapse. But if they lose more money from this than they would have by losing all their Chinese interest, that would be rather just and appropriate. Considering that most of the OWL is not in China, nor should it operate in any way with what we’ve seen from Chinese ethics.

Blitz doesn’t represent Blizzard, all they had to do was say his views do not represent Blizzard and be done with it.

However, how many people are foolish to believe that if he came out in support of China, that Blizzard would have reprimanded him the same way, if at all? It’s a double standard

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The punishment was written into the text before this ever happened. Prize money reduced to $0 and kicked out of the Grandmasters plus potential suspension. That’s what happened.

And I’m sure it was offensive to supporters of the Chinese government, of which there are a lot of in China. You can’t just pick sides and say “well, that’s a morally justifiable opinion, so everyone hurt is wrong and we’ll let it slide.”

Why is it justified to see people lose their jobs because they followed the rules they put in place before any of this was even a thought in anybody’s head?