All morning this question has been coming up and I’d like to present everything we know about this issue.
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Is this a bug?
This is currently not known if it’s a bug or not. There are a few posts on the Bug Report forum about it but no Blue reply, as of yet. There is/was a bug with CTF using Normal Comp SR for placements. Perhaps the reverse is true?
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/known-issues-list-2018-02-08/27
- The grouping chart is in effect, even for placements.
https://imgur.com/a/xyQkn
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Hidden MMR is being used to allow/disallow group queuing.
If you were close to the 3k border and then win while queued with a friend under that SR you’ll begin getting the error once anyone in your group crosses it.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/grouping-up-in-placements-now-based-on-hidden-mmr/14239
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You must be within 1000SR of your teammates
If the hidden MMR determines you or any of your teammates to fall outside of this range it will also give you the error and as far as we know the grouping chart applies during placements now.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/skill-level-too-far-apart-with-unranked-friend/15432
I hope this helps consolidate the discussion around this issue!
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this is really, really good.
I wonder if indeed people were getting boosted/hindered by placements thanks to the ELO of people they were playing with and against wreaking havoc on their stats at the start of the season.
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Why would anyone be against this? Because now GMs/Masters can’t ruin diamond games duoing with bronzes/silvers? The lower elo people weren’t even getting boosted as they will still place where they belong and most of the time the team with the bronze would lose. It’s about time they fixed it.
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Are you going to make any more conspiracy theories on how the MM system works without knowing anything?
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I have had the same issue, i was 3700 last season but previously gm and my friend ended on 4000 and we played one placement together then we had the same issue. I am a main healer and he is a main tank/dps. I am not sure why this is even a thing or if its a mistake but this needs to be fixed or removed asap.
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Yeah, i’m the friend of Melbie and to be honest we have the same level and just because she play heal during the game ( the game was a stomp so the heal was not really important during this game ) we can’t do placement together anymore so if it’s a mistake they need to fix that quickly. This really a stupid feature, i hope they will do something for this…
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Sorry to hear about being unable to play with your friend 
Could you update this page if anything is made clear please and thank you
If anything comes up I’ll be sure to update the post!
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I agree that bronze players shouldn’t be able to queue with M/GMs for placements. MM should still be as fair as possible. However, say a gold player plays a lot in quick play with a diamond player and gets a lot better. His hidden MMR will grow a lot and this should be considered when doing placement matches (at least, for a few games).
I’m getting this too. I think it has a lot to do with CTF. I could q with my friends before they did their placements there. I haven’t done my placements. One of them got diamond. For a while it wouldn’t let me q with either of them for normal comp, but I can now q with the one that got plat, but not the one that got diamond, even though none of us have done our placements and he got plat last season.
And what gets me is, if it’s looking at hidden mmr, then why can the friend that placed lower than I a few seasons back (the last time we all did comp) play with the friend that placed above us both, but I cannot?
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Because I want to play with my friends. The fact that Blizzard hasn’t implemented a team/group MMR system for competitive is insane. I’ve already bought this game 2 more times just to be able to play with my friends, and now I can’t again. It’s really infuriating.
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The bigger question is, what is Blizzard going to do about this. For us as friends this is just splitting us up. We have alot of fun for years playing online games. A game should not split up groups of friends!
The only alternative we have is Quickplay, but since the “It doesn’t matter because it’s Quickplay” rule applies for like 80% of the community, this is not fun to play.
So we end up with 2 choices; split up as friends during gameplay, or abandon Overwatch, This can’t be your goal right? Blizzard?!
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Hope blizzard fixes this real quick ells they gonna lose a lot off players
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But there’s already one in place? Only difference is you could circumvent those limits during placements before. Even right now 1k difference is huge, it should be 500 across all tiers. If you actually care about playing with them coach them so they stop being AI bots. A gm+bronze will never create a balanced match.
I also bought a new account to play with friends but placed master while playing a role I never do but I’m not going to ruin other peoples games just so I can play with them.
The only scenario where a gm+bronze in the same team would be remotely acceptable is a 6 stack only queue.
Still getting this after the end of CTF comp so I guess my instinct was wrong here.
Can we please get some sort of response about this? My friend even placed plat last season and still can’t group with me. The last time I played comp I was in plat, so really, we should be able to group together. I’m at a pure loss for this at this point.
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It’s sad that Blizzard has given us ZERO response to this. I’m unable to group with my plat friends for placements, which takes away a lot of the fun I have with this game.
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Has Blizzard responded to anything regarding this yet? I’ve never placed in previous seasons, yet I can’t play competitive with a friend who has placed in previous seasons, but not this season. It disappoints me!
They have not and it’s been so long that I doubt they ever will.
Make the 1k allowance 200 or 300, there’s no reason to have it anywhere above 500, it encourages people to either boost on a smurf, or invite their friends to a level of play where they have no concept.
TLDR Sorry you can’t play with your friends, but this ruins the experience for the other teammates and makes games one sided, with some rare exceptions.