I forgot about it but Varian gets mortal strike or shield break built in. Varian destroys and hard counters any shield hero such as Fenix, Artanis, or most importantly, Chen. Chen can wreck havoc on a team but having a Varian just melts Chen like nothing else. Chen vs Varian is just asking to lose.
Taunt Varian is not really much of a counter for Tracer when she can take advantage of his charge cast and pull him straight where she wants him, yes he casts taunt on her but now he’s in the center of your team’s fire.
Taunt Varian (And Varian in general) would be SO much better if Shield Wall wasn’t the end-all be-all.
Imo…
Shield Wall no longer gives Parry a 5 second CD - Parry has a baseline CD of 5 seconds. Still gives protected and removes a charge.
Bam. Suddenly Varian becomes an excellent tank against AA comps, and has the option to take Warbringer for superior lockdown and mobility.
Twin Blades vs stuns and blinds is going to struggle unless you’re hatted or stimmed. Try going against a Johanna. She’ll out tank you, stun you, and blind you and then once things get hot, she’ll retreat with her shield and unstoppable.
Arthas will out tank a Twin Blades Varian, His slow, his heals, and his roots can just leave you stationary for the enemy team to allows easy skill shots to hit. Plus if he chooses the ghoul ult, you’ll have an even tougher time.
Twin Blades is BEST if you already have a tank. Your higher health pool, 1.5 second silence, and the ability to still get protected by the way, is great. Varian is not the best tank by any means. Other tanks have more to put on the table than he does. But Twin Blades is NOT a better tank build than Taunt. Sorry.
If you allow him to have both of his level 10 talents and a lower cooldown on protected by the way, you’re looking at an over powered hero. Varians who are actually good, will dominate. That’s not ideal. Every 5 seconds he can use a gap closer AND be protected by the way as he does it? Yeah imagine if Varian’s team has an Aba, how would you balance that?
Umm, no, I’m saying to buff baseline Parry so that all Varian specs AREN’T as dependent on Shield Wall. Currently Shield Wall is basically a must have because it not only gives Protected, but also reduces the CD by 50%, well worth the loss of a charge.
By giving Parry a 5 second CD baseline, Varian will not only be a bit more viable in ranked (Primarily against AA heroes), but Shield Wall will suddenly become worth a lot less, and become a more situational pick (Pick against ability-heavy teams, otherwise Warbringer)
Varian already has a baseline of a 5 second cooldown. 10 seconds per charge and 2 charges. If you use them 5 seconds from each other, you’ll have the same cooldown as a baseline 5 seconds, but only for auto attacks. Parry’s level 10 talent is already a 5 second cooldown. So at level 10 you’re able to have both level 10 talents. What talent would you replace for shield wall?
Is what you’re saying here that it has protected, a 5 second cool down and a reduced charge baseline? If so, that’s what shield wall is therefore you are removing a talent and putting it as a baseline with the ability. Therefore allowing you to have both current level 10 talents at the same time. Sorry. That’s overpowered.
Since the nerf warbringer is taunt best level 10 and is debatable for CS.
Taunt issue is that it never got compensation or proper compensation for that loss of baseline armor.
Twinblades is the most sustenable spec and frankly taunt does not feel that much tankier than Cs build.
This is why OP asks himself rightfully so if taunt is to be considered a bruiser with interrupt spec or a tank spec.
If varian keeps being labeled as a tank he should feel like a proper one picking taunt.
Blizz has changed auriel to make her feel less niche with at least is a good approach , taunt varian shouldn’t be a "dash an OW hero and overpower whack them during taunt " hero.
This also means we need another tank with a shield break talent.
There’s a great topic on Varian on HOTS reddit page today so please participate if you can https://old.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/d36e7s/can_varian_please_get_some_attention_in_the_next/ also sorry if I derailed the conversation
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Sheesh, you really do have reading comprehension problems.
Parry does NOT have a baseline cooldown of 5 seconds. It has a 10 second CD baseline with 2 charges - If you use both charges rapidly, you have to wait 20 seconds to get them both back again.
What I am asking for is that Parry has 2 charges and a 5 second CD baseline - This will make Varian a very strong pick against AA heroes, compared to being an overall mediocre pick right now.
Then, Shield Wall can have it’s CD reduction removed. Thus, if you pick Shield Wall at 10, you still lose a charge, and gain Protected during Parry, making it a talent you have to consider picking, rather then a talent that you always take in 99.9% of situations in the game.
Do you understand? Read over it slowly, several times. Maybe even read aloud, since you seem to have problems with comprehension.
Maybe I misread some of what you were saying. However, this only affects Varian before level 10. If you have trouble with Varian before that as a tank then you’re probably not a good Varian. He’s fine as he is.
I thought here you were saying you wanted to give parry a baseline CD of 5 seconds and protected. That’s why what I was saying probably made no sense. We simply weren’t on the same page.
Still I think that idea is dumb because in the end you get the same thing at level 10. Maybe just making Warbringer a stronger level 10 talent would make it more viable instead of making Parry seem weaker.
Instead of being a prick, why don’t you keep your snarky remarks to yourself and just get better at Varian instead.