Or just ARAM?
It’s basically no soaking all fighting.
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I’ve had the unfortunate pleasure of playing Hanamura Temple with AI allies and enemies and I notice they always focus on taking this camp
Sometimes even if the payload has spawned
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Yeah. The samurai is the map objective.
The payload is a distraction.
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Certainly feels that way if even developer programmed bots are prioritizing that camp
soaking adds at least a litte bit of strategy to the gameplay. without it, how would you level? only through teamfights? you lose two or three fights and have a level disadvantage for the rest of the game?
sounds like moba isnt something for you
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Just imagine OP playing chess
Avoiding killing enemy pawns because they are weak/boring and focusing the powerful pieces at the back
Only to find out that all the pawns have become queens
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i love soaking, i hate those dudes that never stop araming everywhere and then die, then they blame team because they’re soaking, i guess ur one of that, and I tell you that getting out of bronze without learning soaking, is very difficult… xp carry games and kills also, but not only kills…
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If I had a penny for every single teammate that died in a mid-lane brawl before even two minutes have passed in the game
I would be a very rich man
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It is a team level based strategy game with the goal is to destroy the core and NOT kill as many opponents as you want. If you want a brawler only, go play ARAM or another game like smash or some beat’m’ups.
Same. 
You could even win with almost no kills at all. Cheese tactics like Morales’ cheese or this are a thing:
A nice game from Fan and I like the opponents playstyle, even though they lost close.
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Have you tried ARAM?
if you want to only fight, then play ARAM, that is why it is there.
The reason why minions are so important is that 1 wave is worth ROUGHLY 1 kill, so even if you die to get a minion wave it is KINDA worth it, you want the XP to gain a lead on the enemy team.
each level is a 4% difference in everything, health, damage, etc. so if a team has 2 levels on you that can be a BIG difference on who wins the fight as well if they have a talent advantage.
soaking is one of the most important things if you want to win games in Hots, since 1 wave of soak is worth roughly the same XP as a single kill on even levels
At even levels, heroes are worth 300 XP. One minion wave is 480 XP. They’re not even roughly equal - a single wave is worth considerably more than a kill.
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it’s a battle of attrition on 3 fronts but i agree that soaking is boring and getting more out of killing minions than killing heroes is counterintuitive.
It’ the weird learning curve in this game, by now I soak when i need to without thinking about it but i remember how it was when i was new, it took a looooong time to learn when to soak when to do camps and when to fight, at first its very counterintuitive for new players.
As ex-Tassadar/TLV main I hecking love to soak!
I bring a lot of value not only for myself but for my entire team too.
You want someone to double soak or do macro? I will do it.
Okay please do it for me DrLogan
Come join me in games
I will pay you in V-bucks
Your life for hire!
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Wouldn’t call it counterintuitive, it’s just people not paying attention nor wanting to improve. All bases are covered in beginner tutorial, but it’s just so much easier to focus on the nearest red bar you see.
What I meant is soaking isn’t an absolute necessity beyond a couple situations. Yes, a team that soaks will beat a team that doesn’t, overall it’s an important part of the game, but you’re not going to be at a massive disadvantage in team fights most of the time. It’s certainly not major in the way OP makes it sound. Taking a fight at level 12 vs 13 isn’t the end of the world for instance.
As a couple posters have mentioned, it’s not like in other mobas where it’s critical to soak (and for longer too).
But taking a fight at level 2 vs level 5 is brutal though. 3 level difference is always determined to lose almost everytime, even two level behind is very hard, but possible if you can surprise the enemys.
Soaking is important because people who think like you and do not soak get rolled in 6 to 8 minutes.