Should I return to Hots or will I get banned again?

True, that is a problem. I do actually agree the system needs an overhaul in that regard, ideally by adding some kind of manual review.

However, that is no reason to completely abandon the notion any kind of report system, as a lot of toxic people seem to suggest.

Depend. Did you change your attitude?

353 tl games here. Argued a bunch with silly kids and trolls. Even during a 1500+ second queue I fell asleep and woke up to a loss with Garrosh auto-picked. I’m sure I should’ve received an onslaught of reports there. No silence or ban. Perhaps the high win-rate helped lol.

Stay away. Blizzard doesn’t care and takes so damn long to figure things out but anyone with a simple glance to figure out problems from the start. Probably would get banned again and their faulty automatic system and tried to appeal it would get “it was justified and blah blah”. Give players the false sense of care and just laugh it off and trick you. Another game were they treated it as their own child and once it was grown up they said “bye and good luck”.

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Some self-reflection would help you better connect with people if you’re trying to get results out of them.

Right now, you’re working with humans. Imagine humans were an oboe. If you were new or just didn’t really give much though to how you came across, you’d sound like &@!$. Right now when you talk to people who you’re angry at (because they suck), your feelings probably overshadow your request to them and your sound is wide, nasally, and unpleasant.

You’re probaby asking something simple like, “Nazeebo, you’ll get more stacks faster and be safer if you rotate and clear waves with us. Trust me, come with us”

But you are upset so let’s translate
“Naz stop being an idiot and soaking alone, you’ve literally done nothing but feed all game. You can’t be out that far in lane vs. Zera Falstad”

And yeah. Would that have warranted a report in your dad’s era, when people were tougher? Probably not. But guess what? Oboes are currently being made out of younger trees, they grow them faster and chop em up for money, so they don’t last as long or make as vibrant, beautiful tones. Mostly, they just aggressively pretend to be happy and well-made until they cry themselves to sleep every night over venti white mochas, selfies, taco bell and Netflix.

There is a silver lining, though, and that is that this is an analogy and that even though it’s hard, people can change. Including those cancers who feign outrage, and including you, and even me (?$&$ing kumbaya moment right here folks) can reflect and see how the way we talk to people, the way we put our mouths on them and blow through their tiny holes and the shape of our air pathways and vocalizations alllll affect the outcome in the end, so that we can strive to make the most beautiful sounds come out of the oboe. You have to learn how to play, you have to learn how to play the game of talking to people who are looking for you to be just another source of harrisment and drama in their dull lives. You can show them up soooo much harder by giving them supportive, positive and direct messages to work with, forcing them into either complying, coming up with a better solution, or the embarrassing third option of reacting as if they’d just been attacked, without even attacking them in literally any conceivable way. At that point, their own self-loathing in the light of your loving messages to them is the only hand by which they suffer, and it’s clear as day to everyone. Happy victories to you in your loving conquest of the self

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Just wanted to point out that I still havent redownloaded the game yet, thnx Hots team for turning me away from a game that I really enjoyed for 4 years now.

If your response to whether or not you should come back is “we should be a little okay with negativity toxicity because people have bad days and can’t control themselves”… just don’t come back, you’re going to get banned again.

Toxicity is not excusable; it does nothing positive to your team, and frankly it does nothing positive to yourself either.

Don’t come back until you can lose gracefully.

If ‘everything going right’ and ‘everyone playing perfectly’ is a requirement for the game and the community just to be spared the wrath of your frustration you’re just going to be let down when you get banned again.

The real answer is you will feel safe to come back to this game when you feel in control of your emotions and you are psychologically validated via the other facets of your life so that venting to strangers in a game is not the path you feel will lead you to feeling better.

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Learning how to control your emotions might benefit you not only in this game tho.
So this game might be a good learning tool for you if it pushes you that hard, big evil man! xD

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The problem is that the majority of the community thinks that dying 10x is still perfect. They even get feedback from the game: Good job! You only died 10 times when your average is 12.

No one expect perfect plays. Is it unrealistic expactation to have teammates with diamond skill set on diamond HL instead of bronze feeders with more damage taken than damage done as ranged assassins? Maybe when someone feeds or refuses to participate and someone tells him/her to stop it, they should stop it instead of rolling through every single report option, throw hissy fit and keep afking/feeding for the rest of the game.

Maybe if toxicity caller baddies would focus on learning and winning games over reporting the tryhards, there would be less how to climb out of MMR hell topics.

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It’s certainly unrealistic expectations to think toxicity is going to help the situation in any way…

This… 100% agreed.

And what is toxicity? People report for telling them stop afking or pinging them. Getting banned for abusive chat doesn’t necessarily mean that the player is toxic. Those thrashtalking kids you meet will never get banned because they are casuals and that’s why they thrashtalk. Those who play a lot receive lot of false report and end up banned for silly things.

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Venting frustrations is still toxicity.

I will certainly agree that the automated reporting system is broken, but there are also just as many toxic players who deserve their bans, even if THEY think it’s harmless.

I love how this thread hates on “toxic players” and people who “type bad words”.

Here is an idea, use the freaking MUTE button… but since all you snowflakes are so petty you have to tell mommy (Blizzard) and get their accounts taken away.

Then you complain that the playerbase is so small. #SnowflakeLogic

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“stop feeding” =/= venting frustration

My Main got perma-banned.

Been playing since the buy-in Beta. Now I have an alt account that I just play with for some friends.

But truth be told, im even more “toxic” now cuz IDGAF.

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Thank you. Glad that some people finally understand what really matters in this game.

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Here is an actual tip that will work. Create like 4 accounts. Play 1 account a week, so every month, you cycle between all 4 accounts.

This way, you won’t have enough games to get banned from reports.

Feel free to be as toxic as you like

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Telling someone to flatly ‘stop feeding’ is not helpful in the slightest.

Tell them how to not feed is constructive criticism.

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