Nah, he’ll leave that to some1 else. His will be more on the lines of “D.va is OP and here’s why”. Although he tends to skimp on the why part often.
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It almost feels like has Hail plays new heroes and finds out that some heroes are strong against his current hero, that it makes it somehow over powered.
Like, he’s noticing the right pattern, he’s just not calling it the right word.
No, that’s false.
There’s also the fact that games that don’t go to level 20 are not taken into account for masterleague website.
Just, don’t trust it when it comes to winrates. And as I said, hgc stuff never matched with the ones that did it 100%, so you’re wrong thinking that divS winrate is perfect.
I also just looked at the HH tournament and it’s lacking soooooo many games.
what on earth are you talking about? There are >lvl 20 games. You are trying so hard right now
It may not be perfect, but it is representative. Your original claim was that he is almost never picked or banned in top level tournaments, and that simply isn’t true. I agree he is certainly not the best tank in the game right now (hello Anub!), but he isn’t the worst by any stretch. The fact that he has some of the best synergy with a number of currently popular heroes offsets many of his intrinsic weaknesses.
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So if there are some replays missing, Diablos popularity would be even higher. Oh noes.
But hey, still waiting for all these supposedly 100% accurate stats.
Dio, too, says:
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and bring back his old Charge ability. his charge still has insane range
It doesn’t take into account those games, it’s a fact. There was another website for that, but I don’t remember the name right now.
He is probably just banned because of the apoc combo with medivh/hanzo/zera tbh, because apoc. But still, I rarely see him banned/picked in the HH tournament and divS.
You know, replays that are missing could be the ones where Diablo is not picked/banned, so his popularity/winrate can go down easily.
As you’re assuming all replays that are missing have Diablo in it, I see you’re kind trolling lol.
Discussion is over cause I don’t want to talk with trolls.
@Hail
NotParadox said yesterday on stream in the bronze/silver tournament that most low ranks ban Diablo a lot because they never focus him, so he feels OP and unkillable. So yeah, there you go, just focus him when he dives and he dies.
Not all, but if he has second highest popularity already in 280 games, its safe to assume he will appear in more of them.
Just to point out you were the first one that brought up tournament discussion and failed miserably at it.
He does not, I just looked at it. Stop the freaking lies. There’s at least 7-8 heroes more popular than him.
Also I just looked at the number of games and there’s a bunch missing. HH tournament has 5 games there. FIVE GAMES.
Now go into the builds. Do you see any build without the level 20? No. Why? Because master league doesn’t take into account games that didn’t go to level 20.
Stop. The. Freaking. Lies.
#I’m done with the troll now after all this proof.
Honestly, I find that a bit hard to believe. Here is one of the recent YouTube 'casts from Khaldor in Div S, and Diablo was a first round ban in every match. As I mentioned earlier, it is likely because of how well he synergizes with popular heroes like Tyrande or Zeratul, but to say this happens rarely seems to be a bit of either exaggeration, or maybe confirmation bias.
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No wonder he is banned against Washed up, most powerful team and the one who can pull out some incredible wombo combos (apoc really good for that).
But still, I just looked at it and Diablo is around the top 10 most banned hero, which is something but it still means he isn’t banned all the time like people are saying.
Oh, I wasn’t suggesting he was banned 100% of the time, and believe it or not, Washed Up was the one banning him so LFT couldn’t have him. I do think he is one of the more popular tank bans in general, but you have to remember at the highest level they aren’t banning/picking based on the heroes in a vacuum, as Hail is treating them, but how well their tank main can play them, and how well the hero works in the comp they are building, or to counter what their opponents are doing.
Saying Diablo is generally a bad tank may be fair, but only if you are looking at his kit without considering what it what can do in a coordinated team. It is very similar to Tyrael, who can struggle in lower ranks or teams of random people, but he can be absolutely lethal in organized play.
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Did you suffer braindamage and got problems reading or something? Since the very beginning Im talking about tanks, if that wasnt obvious. Im not going to compare him to healers lol.
PS - he is 7th most popular hero in Division S while we are at it. Pretty good for a worst tank in the game.
Enough to make results from other 283 Division S games irrelevant? But ok, we can wait a bit for upload.
We will wait for rest, unless you got own stats from all matches?
(in case you didnt notice, you provided none so far)
At what point was I talking about builds?
Diablo has been fp(!) in 74 games, 91 games total. 77 bans total. Out of 283 games total.
Won 52 out of 91 games.
No, I dont see any builds without lvl 20. I see lvl 1-20 builds from 24 games. But if I move to games, I see number of games equal to total games played with Diablo.
So at what point does it prove masterleague doesnt include >lvl20 games? Because >lvl20 games are included in the popularity/winrate summary. Build may be inaccurate, but it completely doesnt prove masterleague doesnt include >lvl20 games. Obviously. Seriously, how did you manage to connect lack of builds with lack of games included in the hero summary?
You are running around in circles like a headless chicken, just to not admit you were wrong.
Yep and please balance ana and abathur while we are at it they are always banned by pros.
Muradin is free to pick anyway.
Also banning diablo vs washed up is a given, you don’t let diablo in the hands of jaypl or sportsbilly and even if you do there are mene and smx’s malf or tyrande lurking behind.
Those guys would wreck 100% of the playerbase with diablo’s QE alone even with fresh reworked diablo when he had tass level of winrate.
Reporting you for being toxic. Also I clearly said since the start that he isn’t banned or picked as often like people think he is. If you can’t read that I was talking about ban/picks overall then it’s your own fault. Of course if you compare only tanks the positions all change.
Can’t prove because I said that’s what I got from my friends who play at divS + HH and by watching. Also ML doesn’t have all the games so we can’t really comment on that or use that. But fine, if you want to use a bad source go for it. At least I’m being honest and not faking numbers.
It doesn’t take into account. Now explain why the tempostorm inforgraphics was always different from what ML had? Maybe because tempo took all the games into account, so that’s not a good source right? It’s better to take a third part website that only has games that people upload to it right? Okay.
You are, because you are lying and saying things I didn’t even say and distorting everything just to make your point true, just like Hail does in his threads.
I’m done with this. You want to lie and do ad hominem, go ahead, I’m not party of this anymore.
Did you tho? He got craploads bans both in higher HL and tournaments. Weird definition of “almost never”.
Yet you are ready to follow hotslogs 
This too funny.
Since you are watching every game, how many Division S games since Diablo nerf we had so far?
Washed Up was the one banning Diablo, not the other way around. JayPL isn’t the only top tier tank main who knows how to play him.