My personal tier list

I dont wanna sound rude but what was the thought process that went behind putting rag at C?

A hero who can do just short of anything except heal.

And I feel like imperius is too inconsistent in matches to be placed at B. One moment he is a team wiping death machine and one moment hes just… really weak

Personally, I think tier list should be role based, not all put together. That way, it’s easier to compare, and heroes who can fill multiple roles (Varian, Thrall, Blaze, etc.) can be filled accordingly.

I respect the ‘personal’ boundary (taste, opinion, preference), and most I can see the reason behind it, but KT, Tassadar, Malganis, I have to speak out on :laughing:.

I understand that there can be meta difference (I’m currently playing on Asia, used to on NA, never played on EU), but Malganis, not even a D tier but in trash tier? Why :zipper_mouth_face::zipper_mouth_face::zipper_mouth_face:?

And Tassadar below KT? Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I play KT, his damage dealing seems so out of your control. He’s not like Jaina, a hero you can cast, target spell as you wish, but his W, enemy has to spread it to deal proper damage (which after certain level, enemy players know how to maneuver), his Q, you have rely on CC (either yours or your team’s) to consistently/reliably hit. Other players seem to be the same as far as I can tell, not in full control of their damage as KT. He is more picked as PvE oriented hero. And Shrine seemed to be the only good map for him (not even in Braxis nor Tomb).

While, Tass seems much more consistent for both PvE and PvP. His Wall is a great tool, which can allow kills on its own. But when it is paired with tanks like Garrosh, it could very well be a death sentence to some.

If Tass can’t be B, I think he should be at least C around Guldan. KT, lower C than that.

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Well its Ana’s personal tier list and Ana is a Master player. I’m not, I’d suspect Imperius is more impactful at Ana’s skill level rather than Rag.

It’s not really meant to be taken seriously, tier lists are mostly just for fun.

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If this tierlist would be for master players I would agree with you and wouldn’t say anything, but this tierlist is for non-master players that’s why Medivh or Genji are low, so you have a voice here as well. :wink:

In tournament or Master level play, I would agree, but he is more team dependent than Anub, especially if he is in the solo lane. For solo queue SL, Anub is more of a playmaker.

If I had a dollar for every time a team mate who was getting hard focused ran away from my Bunker…

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Here’s mine.

Special mention to:
My 8-1 AA Tassadar this season as he’s played like a mage, auto-attacker and bruiser.
Garrosh bruiser build is absolutely obnoxious to play against.
Junkrat trap build has little counter plays.
Abathur gets too much macro pressured in the early game.
Stitches isn’t a first pick anymore since the minor changes and now that Leoric is strong.

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It seems like everyone agrees on Nova and Li Li being bottom of the pack. Poor Panda and Gun Girl.

It’s Ana’s personal list though and she’s master, so some of the hero choices would be reflected in that. It’s still just a personal list for funzies and to open up a discussion on heroes, well that’s what Ana said. :slight_smile:

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Especially on hero deserves attention between your lists: Cho’gall. While Ana puts him into D/E, he’s in A. Reasoning?

While I understand that Medivh is in “Good, but below average”, why is Genji in just “below average”? Is this tierlist based on heroesprofile only?


It’s also nice to see that you value Tass more than Ming, KT or Chromie. :smiley:

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Cho’gall: Alex W build, Auriel and BW make them very powerful. Less coordination is needed since gall is very easy to play. They’re always in the top win rate. They don’t always fit in drafts, but excel at their niche. Their power spike at lvl 16 with Leaden Orb makes them a monster to deal with.

The list is based on my own opinion by considering win rates from heroesprofile in Dia+, my own observation from my games and also OTPs value in master.
Pro Genji in SL don’t provide enough. I’m excluding Dynouh since he’s an extreme exception just like I would exclude Iksir’s Probius.

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I dont feel Ragnaros is that impactful compared to other heroes
I miss the cc and his substain is not that great compared to other heroes
I only love his molton core and ults

I dont want endless discussions who is and who isnt a solo laner :stuck_out_tongue: not my cup of tea

As mentioned metachange. Too many heroes make his life miserable.
Cant recommend playing him

As horsin +sadius mentioned if im being dived on I rather play KT. And I like that KT can move more. And vs big waves KT is favored
Tassadars is too inconsistent compared to jaina kt
And with garrosh I prefer tychus calimity ming or jaina

Please stop putting words in my mouth its annoying… My tier list is not for masters or for bad players like you mentioned before. It is a general tier list. Stop labeling it otherwise
If this was a master tier list I still put medivh and genji in D
Master is too divided between skill levels good and really good.
It is not worth playing them unless your in a 5 men

He can peel more then anub. Anub is all about that one engage. Blaze can put his oil down and your team can be safe
Blaze also has access to better talents

You put xul maeive and ZJ too high for my taste :stuck_out_tongue: i try not to put my own maeive experience into it
Raynor+ joh that low? And what is up with aba (dont feel attacked just want to hear your story)

Thank you well said :slight_smile:

How is Aba below average at Master tier and up? I thought Aba was busted at your level, is that no longer the case?

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It’s SL, Xul freely double soaks, ZJ freely stacks on tanks and Maiev can still abuse poor positioning even in master.
Raynor, there’s nothing special about him, he’s just plain average.
Johanna doesn’t compliment most dps outside of Blessed Shield and Heaven’s Fury.

Abathur loses the first 2 objectives and most likely the first boss, which leads to a possible strong snowball effect. He’s strong if he gets to lvl 20 and the enemy team doesn’t have good macro. That’s similar to pre rework Nazeebo.

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Ana i’m massively salty you put my main in trash tier. Malganis is good people are just dumb and don’t know how to play him. I kick with malganis and on a consistent basis. I have a 67% win rate with him.

butcher must be in tier S, and i can prove it

Show your arguments. I wanna know why.

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Are you by chance referring to me or butch?

To be fair he feels more like a bruiser than he does a tank. Very aggressive that relies on costant fighting to have good sustain. In good hands his dmg is high, but his peeling sucks when we comparing him other tanks (excluding tyrael). I wouldn’t throw him in the trash bin, but I wouldn’t put him higher than a high B tier at best. As for those who are Master rank and higher, I have no voice in that, but I can’t see him being in the A or S tier. Don’t forget this is also based on SL. So if you play QM as malganis a lot, that would generate a different opinion on hero ranks for tier lists.

The Butcher’s user. He said The Butcher is really S and I wanna hear his explanations.

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I play him both in QM and ranked, my overal score with him is 67% my WR in ranked 65%. I terrify the other team when I play him because I’ve perfected my CC combo. For ana who was saying well he’s only got sustain through ult you’ve clearly never played Malganis a day in your life. I’ve been up against teams that have anti heals and let me tell you it F***ing sucks, but it doesn’t stop me from kicking their butts. I’ve team wiped with just malganis before because unbeknownst to a lot of players his level 16 is insanely strong. I’ve mastered using it and even if they cancel my ult they cannot cancel getting CCed into oblivion. Then I put them back to sleep and trade life and start the process all over again. If I have a team to back me up they get crushed If i don’t they are all left below half and I almost always secure at least one kill a fight. Sure I can be poked, if they plan to play at a safe distance the whole game, but if they really want to kill me I make them get close enough they play to my tune not theirs. Also I know its not his job perse, but Malganis is an insanely good ganker which is usually how I help my team get the level adv early. I go up and CC one of em to death and rotate as needed and then I knock their teeth down their throats during team fights. There’s not a single tank I really struggle with including Garrosh because Malganis has one of the best escape options their is. I agree he’s not top tier, but he’s WAYYYYYYY better than trash tier, bare minimum C tier.

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Where did I say that?