So you go to CC land and pick trash ranged dps hero with no CC or no dash.
Apologies i overstimated you.
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Because 2 of my team members are dead? Because the enemy team has a million follow up CC or burst?
@Macweak: You’ve proved my point again that those “trash ranged dps hero with no CC or no dash” has no counterplay options to point and click hard CC’s aside from the medallion. Thank you kind sir.
@Karabars - I’m not an Orphea main, but I feel like using her picture as my profile for the simple reason that I want to. If you get hit by a 20% slow from an autoattack, uhhh just walk away? Dash away? Fight back? It’s only a 20% slow. It’s not a stun that the enemy can follow up with a burst or another hard CC.
Bwahahahaha i knew it!!!
Disses point and click for melees but defends raynor’s gameplay!!
How can I walk away if I move at 80% speed while my enemy is at least on 100% speed?
So CCs are rare but everyone has a dash?..
Could be said against Butch and Tyrael. I defeated them many times.
Slows are things that the enemy can follow up as well. There are Exterminator talents (extra dmg on CC), everyone hits you with more ease, and everyone has an easier job to just walk up to you (to put some of those “other hard CCs” on you).
And who is your main?
Or with which Hero you failed so big against Tyrael that you came here to make yet another whine thread?
And about this:
If you’re outnumbered, play safe so Tyrael can’t just Judge you?..
Yes Raynor’s easy, but at least he’s punishable. He has no dashes long ranged poke. He also has no way to deal with Butcher’s charge or Judgement aside from pressing E to gain armor.
Also, in public games it isn’t uncommon for Sanct to get zero value since teammates actively walk out of it, just like Deckard’s potions or Medivh’s portals, forcing even decent win ratio higher MMR Tyrael players to take Judgment.
I am averse to picking certain talents or heroics requiring coordination with complete strangers that prove repeatedly they can’t cooperate.
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Raynor can just Q away Judgement. LOL
Also, he can Q away Butcher after his Stun.
And I’d call his nice AA or at least his 10 (or fewer) sec cd Q a poke. (Or his Raider ult.)
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You can at least still be able to side step and move.
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If you’re slowed you can dash away. If you’re against Butcher, Illidan, or Tyrael their charge/hunt/judgement can still hit you even after you used your dash.
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Not when you are stunned followed by another stun or burst combo.
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Not many heroes have exterminator talents. And it’s way more difficult to follow up on slows than a point and click braindead stun.
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Ok fine. I was playing Valla that game. What is she going to do against a judgement or charge aside from praying the healer has a brain and knows when to use cleanse?
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It’s a long ranged point and click stun that lasts a screen away. Good luck countering that.
"Raynor can just Q away Judgement. LOL
Also, he can Q away Butcher after his Stun.
And I’d call his nice AA or at least his 10 (or fewer) sec cd Q a poke. (Or his Raider ult.)"
Yes, AFTER when he gets stunned. And good luck hitting Tyrael under that 0.0001 second window of opportunity. If a Raynor gets charged, hit by another stun, then bursted, he’s dead.
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Pet peeve: It’s Judgment. There is only one “e” in that word.
Carry on.
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You do know judgment is an ult right?
If your whole issue is that it’s point and click… I got something to tell you about lots of other ults.
With Q build, you can Q the charging Tyrael/Butcher so you’ll have selfsustain during the Stun and just E away after.
Also, so you did have a Healer with Cleanse. Whelp: we doN’t balance around incompetence.
Practice it. It’s doable.
Also: forgot, you have a Stun against Tyrael as Valla too, geez, just use that!.
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Why yes yes I do. Pyroblast is a point and click nuke that even a turnip can pull off. Hunt is also a very braindead point and click CC. Artanis’ laser ultimate is braindead point and click nuke that’s even more braindead at 20 because he can kill the whole team WHILE BEING DEAD.
Frost blast at least is only a root and the projectile moves SUPER slow. Triple tap can at least be blocked. Temporal loop has a lot of counterplay.
If your whole team dies to Meme Beam, I can assure you the issue isn’t with the heroic.
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“I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid-[three letter word that isn’t allowed on the forums] decision, I’ve elected to ignore it.”
If my whole team is bad and I don’t have control over them then what do I do? If my whole team is immobile and cannot outrun the laser then I am the one who is forced to suffer?
Increasing the speed of which the laser moves to balance the increased MS of every character was one of the worst decisions that Blizzard made. Why do they love Artanis so much but give no love to the mages that are overly dependent on hitting skillshots that were ruined by the MS changes?
Apparently go on the forums and complain about Tyrael.
Don’t stand in Meme Beam? Don’t run around at 10% health? Stop pointlessly team fighting at a disadvantage?
As Karabars has said repeatedly, heroes shouldn’t be nerfed due to incompetence.
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Do I have any control over my teammates if my Alexstrasza is standing still dying 100-0 from the Troll beam and I can’t back because I have to wait 8 seconds then I die to the troll beam as well?
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Maybe, just maybe, don’t also stand still and die?
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What on earth is this situation? If you’re in a position to hearth, you’re certainly not getting hit by the enemy team. Aside from them, there’s nothing to stop you from outrunning the beam.