For those anticipating the D.Va rework

[Josue-12846]

@Xenterex-1540

Sure they did.

Granted, since games were generally tied to hardware, it was much harder to issue small changes (like a game patch) but a number of games would have changes made by switching consoles; one port to another port to another port to another port (compare Arcade TMNT to home versions or Double Dragon games from pc to console) or even a semi-sequels where other changes were made, but the game was then sold/played completely new, so players had to buy a new copy/version.

How many variations of street fighter 2 are there? All of the versions change something; some might add characters or speed or super moves, but the ‘game’ changed. Even if one wanted to assert that the ‘owned’ copy wasn’t going to change, board switching was a thing for arcade cabinets too and some people even made homebrew changes (street fighter rainbow being the best example of hack changes influences the core game over time)

Sure, if you have an old cartridge of a game and plug it in now, it’s probably still the same (though age and dust can cause glitching and erratic behavior so the game isn’t ‘the same’) but even virtual console versions can vary by having different load times, removing some bugs or exploits; and what you may have had for the game may not have been the first released version of the game. Zelda LttP on the SNES has been made rather infamous in the speedrunning and mod communities that use a japanese-only version of the game so they can have specific glitches and exploits that didn’t happen in the US version.

Even some NES-era games may have just reskinned a release into something else to disguise the ‘changes’ that they made.

Yea, we can understand what you ‘meant’, but a lot of games have changed and with speedrunning or romhack communities, those games see new life because they change (esp if it’s rebalances and QoL adjustments and not just new exploits and yada yada)

As if all that mattered.

None of those “changes” are FORCED into you.

You choose if you use any of those things. You choose if you want to use a mod or NOT. You choose if you want a PC version or if you want to emulate the original console. You choose if you use exploits or NOT. You choose if you want a reskinned version or NOT.

If you chose NOT to do any of those, they you still have the same UNCHANGED thing that was released so many years ago. And it is (mostly) perfectly preserved if it is emulated instead of the aging hardware that may simply fail.

Unlike here where you just have just NO choice. If you like the changes OK for you, if you don’t you are screwed even if the change is good.

Nice way to put excuses. It’s quite sad that even internet preservers at the wayback machine can’t truly freeze all things in time. But truth cannot be erased!

True, some changes were lost in translation when porting games:
https:// www. exotica. org. uk /wiki/Lost_In_Translation

but still.

@MurlocAggroB-1893

D.Va’s rework is going to be smaller than Tassadar’s. They’re mostly looking to fix how bad D.Va is. She’ll still be a Bruiser and her main gimmick will still be intact. Here’s what we know so far:

I hope you are right. Tassadar may be a lot better now, but now we have one less support hero. And since Tassadar lost the phase shift ability, it lost one of the coolest gimmicks it had alongside one of the coolest visual effects: the High Templar afterimages. Displaying those all the time would be problematic to say the least, however it was cool to at least have them briefly. Now they are gone.

@MurlocAggroB-1893

Big Shot will now be much weaker, but is a basic ability. Her new Heroic will be Micro Missiles, which can only be used in Mech Mode.

Too bad if that means she will loose her bunny hop. It was dumb and stupid, but it was actually a hilarious comical relief of a skill and I had become accustomed to it.

@MurlocAggroB-1893

Her mech’s movement speed penalty now only applies while shooting. No more uselessness on big maps!

I used the Rush-down talent to compensate for it, and it worked quite well for me. If that means the talent will no longer exist then they will effectively RUIN D.VA for me.

@MurlocAggroB-1893

Getting back into her mech will take longer, giving it more counterplay.

Oh crap! It seemed an eternity to me! If that’s the case they will indeed give her a huge NERF!

@MurlocAggroB-1893

Torpedo Dash and Concussive Pulse are tied to a single talent now.

What the… Why? How? It doesn’t even make sense, that means forcibly merging a talent that is for mech mode and a talent that is for pilot mode!

@MurlocAggroB-1893

You can now recast Defense Matrix to point it in a different direction.

Oh, at least something good I suppose.