Dont care what the blizz fan boys say, the MM is so bad its unreal

The common complainers of this sort of thing would ‘convince’ cooler heads of an issue of the complainer and not necessarily one with the subject of their complaint.

The mainstay is that the presentation of the complaint, bad matching, is done so in what essentially mirrors the process of a conspiracy theory.

While it’s not some political mastermind in this case, the conclusion does fixate on a ‘sinister’ effect: [they] are ‘forced’ to lose. People that present simpler explanations are thusly dismissed with insults and concluded to be effectively complacent with the conspiracy.

–Because ‘brainwashed’ people are the ones that don’t put much creed in impulsive outbursts with a poorly-informed conclusion! Of course, how did i not realize that sooner!

  1. The conclusion is drawn that they are ‘forced’ to lose following the win streak, rather than say, that they were ‘forced’ to win to start the streak.

  1. The conclusion removes the reality of agency from people involved; the players used to “force” the losses are subject to the whim of the match maker (or are bots,) people that don’t agree with what “everybody knows” must be brainwashed, and so on. The appeal demands [people] not have sufficient control of their own faculties to offset the system. Or the system is just that good, but is intentionally used to force bad matches. (cuz sinister, remember)

  1. The ‘evidence’ for proof fails to show how the game is an outlier of the matching for the other players involved: its only by their own experience that the game is lost, and as such, the conclusion they draw on the system doesn’t work for all other players matched in that game.

Thus the “theory” doesn’t confirm the proof of the experienced concern.
But, the process presented becomes one of contradiction to suit the conclusion instead.

This sort of sequence suggests a ‘defensive mechanism’ to the event, that then extends to anyone that doesn’t appear to take the side of the victim, which, when noticed, would suggest the complaint is a result of self-infliction (per the evident contradiction of claim & proof,) so it can convince other people to… not care*. The lack of support or agreement then fuels the defense mechanism and that becomes more “proof” of the effect of the ‘sinister’ event. (Salt for the “salt god” so to speak.)

Which comes down to pointing out how this boils down to confirmation bias that could only be met with “fan boy” responses, rather than something more experienced, or rational – [they] refuse to believe other possibilities are not only possible, but likely more probable.

The implicit irony being the complaint calls others ‘fan-boys’, yet they’re the ones exhibiting the behaviors attributed to fan-boyism. Since they’re not the “fan” of the event, they’ll rationalize away the self-realization of their conduct, and thus act all the more a “fan boy” in spite of themselves.

So… if they don’t care* what the “fan boy” says (themselves) others won’t either.

I get this is already too long as is, and it hasn’t even defended how the game works yet! So gee, this is just such a terrible ‘white knight’ reply, that it doesn’t even white knight the thing it’s supposed to white knight!

– which would be the sort of conclusion that supports the effect i’m describing with this post.

If people have concerns on how to better present their proof, I could link to other topics, but, well, [they] already “don’t care”, so I have my doubts of the loop thusly being noticed despite being “overwhelming[ly] apparent.”

The lead evidence, the experience, is the ‘only’ convincing factor, so if people don’t have that same experience, they won’t sympathize with the complaint. Without other ‘proof’ it’s just a mundane cycle by people that would otherwise roll [more] alt accounts that beg-the-question that they ‘waste their time’ coming round time and again to offer up their salty tribute.

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I love that someone who pretends word count = intelligence is in actuality so dumb that they think that writing a 20 page essay on a video game forum is the correct way to look completely rational and not like a brainwashed fan boy. Why is this game such a total Dunning-Kruger magnet?

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you might want to think real hard on what you brought you here then and try answer your question for yourself.

The post is two pages, tops, with a lot for empty space, so the exaggeration and impulse you put to that would suggest you took offense to the appearance of it, and have to compensate with bravado that projects your own concern at others.

The basic gist being you demonstrate the very thing of which I wrote would do more to show dunning-kruger on your end. So :clap: there.

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Is the matchmaker manipulative? Yes it is.

Forced 50%

45:20 “The approach where it’s still kinda 50/50 but you don’t always give a 50/50 match, you give a variety of matches, you have some smart way of saying no for this match i’m going to give him actually a hard match
for this next match i’m going to give him an even match for the next match i’m going to give him an easy match.”

45:35 “it gets to the point when matches are super even all the time after a while it actually get kinda tiring…so i come up with the opinion that its ok to allow a little bit of balance here and there and have a mix of even hard and easy matches.”

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The OP match above is a good example when your teammates are the enemy, not the opponents.

Btw you need to mention whether its QM or SL? I am guessing QM.

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ooo that is nothing even more when was released Leoric…even 30 …:slight_smile:

you’ve been gone for a while. where have you been? o.o

i dont know anymore,this HoTS team devs…his work is not perfect or think without mistakes or get smart decions,OK,most of them are so good,but not all.
I did try out so many times to suggest so many ideas,mechanics,and they still “Think” are not so good.
What about MM based of KDA ratio ,but they first must saparated 3 stats ( or be roworked)…and to be calculated with “% ratio”,not like this current vers. only 2 numbers!.
I often inspect my team mates his KDA ratio,and i notice they had so bad ratio cross check with mine,of course exist so many so good players.
I dont know anymore,i too play sence beta test.
HoTS team devs…looks like so good persons and high intellected,but and feel is …they are not!
They can try test this one in PTR ,at lease 1 mouth ( this vers MM based of KDA % ratio) and if not work so well,they can cancaled easly.
I real cant understand them anymore.
And i want to point out,i rare log in game,indeed because of these reasons or MM.

I read somewhere it goes down all the way to 25/75 winrate in certain matches…basically forced losses.

You didn’t have me in your team.

Yeah using 90 words and a copy pasted definition to convey the brilliant argument of “no u” totally didn’t just prove my point. It wouldn’t be so bad if you actually had an original thought in your head occasionally, but I swear to God, Blizzard could make a change where you lose 1000 gold every time you win and you would be on here with a 6000 word defense post for it. You’re basically just a forum troll that’s dumb enough to think that padding their word count like some kid writing a middle school paper will make up for the fact that they don’t actually have anything intelligent to say.

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On vacation lol. I’m surprised you remembered :blue_heart:

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haha yeah i do notice if someone i recognize been active then suddenly not showing anymore

Said no one.

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they don’t try to match by equal skill. they try to match by equal cumulative team mmr

that is why you are getting what you are getting

Gosh darn it Xenterex, please switch back to Tyrande avatar. I freak out every time I see such text without it - I only realize too late it’s you.

Topic:
Imagine blizzard had an algorithm that knew in advance if players would Intentionally throw. They can look into the future? I would find better applications with that knowledge… But of course, ruining individuals’ games is also nice I guess.

Anyone can type numbers. Post some replays.

Imagine, . . . oh wait, they have a reporting system that is completely pointless and misued.

They “could” have report for people who throw, and magically forsee those more likely to throw in the future.

Crazy that reality.

Why have i never had such MM problems ? Everytime i see a thread crying about forced 50% winrate, MMR hell etc, i have 0 problems, sometimes yes i will also find someone who is god awfully bad and yet i still won more than i lost of such games, is match making weird at how it matches ? Yes, because it should be matching 1 healer 1 tank 3 dps not 5 dps and crap like that. If you want me to believe in any of that crap, show replays, if you won 10 games then lost 10 in a row, provide proof. I’ve also had 10 wins followed by 10 losses but that was all due to fatigue of my own, because more often than not i proceed with winning more than i lose, sometimes the entire match history is of won games against similar players.

Ahh crap, this actually has really solid, logical points! I also don’t have the attention span to read more than one paragraph… how can I argue this? AHAA!

“Ur dumb cuz you write too much.”

Yes, irrefutable! Nailed it again.

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