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Who has time to type in this game? Gosh, I barely have enough time to ping, let alone anything else. lol

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I consider myself a slow typer so I try to avoid it or be super short and clear.
But even if I’d be quicker, I wouldn’t type much, especially when we’re on the losing side and every ounce of our focus should be put into the “how to win from here”.
Play > complain.

Also typing can defocus your allies as well. Not wise imo.

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Because every teammate you invite (who you know to be a skilled +50% wins player who also never afks or trolls) decreases your chance of getting a random troll by 1/4th.

The more friends you invite the higher your game quality, whether you win or lose.

If you invite four good friends, your chances of getting a random feeder troll is 0% every match.

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I feel like I remember this being said before, maybe it was you. It actually takes a conscious effort. You have to think, “okay, this is where I died. How could I have not died? Was there something else in the map I should have been doing? When so and so did something I thought was stupid, was it actually the right play? When so and so said I messed up, were they right, or were they wrong?”

And obviously as you pay conscious attention to what is happening you will be able to actually ask yourself the right questions without having to rattle through some list. But tbh, it just sounds like you need a break.

Most of the people I play with in this game I met in-game, I do have friends outside of the game who also play but not nearly as often. Yes, there are a lot of people who are not fun to play with. But you can meet people in a variety of ways. I made a lot of friends by whispering or receiving whispers from the enemy team after games were over. In fact, the people I play with the most currently I made friends with because we spoke for a little while after I stomped them on Chen. One of them is toxic, but he’s… kind of like, a harmless, weak person. Everyone else is chill AF and just puts up with him and address his bs when he starts getting belligerent.

If you’re inclined to be helpless about bettering the playing situation for yourself, if you feel the game really needs it, then I really think you should just take a break and focus on real life things for a little while, and come back later. There really is no point in playing if you are disliking it, I don’t imagine you drag a cheese grater across your face every day because ‘well I don’t know what else to do.’ Try developing some positive habits that you do every day or every few days, like cleaning up your room, or going for a walk every day, or starting to eat more vegetables, go to bed earlier, find a field you’re interesting in and begin doing research and/or practicing, lift weights, make new friends, reflect, meditate, do the Wim Hof Method… There are a lot of ways you can make life really amazing instead of sinking into resentment because you don’t know the ways that you can make life better, to the degree that you don’t even know how much better it can get.

I love playing this game with friends because of the atmosphere and the fact that I can communicate, but largely because of the “let’s have a good time” element of it. It still sucks to lose sometimes, mostly when I make big mistakes and feel stupid, but that’s a personal problem. If you’re not having a good time, don’t make a post, just stop. You don’t need to ‘ok’ from the community, or to try to change anyone’s minds. Take care of yourself. And put this playlist on. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/71OehvpuVWNR09dF6ifwIF?si=rq7hjLqyT2mUZHs4Nl3k9g

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Unfortunately the game uses a match making system that tries to keep you at a 50% win rate or as close to it as possible. If you do premades your chances are much better. Soloing is a one way ticket to wanting to jump on a counter at a McDonald’s to demand some dumb sauce for a stupid anime on adult swim.

This game is frustrating because 4 Other rnd players determine your PERSONAL RANK… :face_vomiting:

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the frustrating thing are afks, leavers, non-cooperative ppl and brainless feeders. and every player you invite to your group, which you know will not do this, is an improvement to your game experience.

cause a TEAMgame with randoms where you have to rely on others never worked well cause everyone only play for themself. I would never touch that game if i had to play solo, only make fun with friends

Maybe because playing with friends you atleast got some control of the game then having 4 randoms who play their own little afk game. Also you can make tactics on voice chat and they will do them, while 4 randoms would mute you for making tactics that counters their way of playing so they can afk more.

simple: you wont choose brainded idiotic friends, unless you ARE one

as my boi medivh said

"birds of a feather, do flock together " while questioning why we hate the raven lord XD

no offense, but its simple logic… unless you made a mistake choosing your friends, which is obvious since you dont look like someone who goes 1 v 5, then we are here :slight_smile:

Because if they are friends, and not just someone picked up in Gen Chat, it will be fun to play with them, win or lose. That is kind of the definition of a friend.

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With friends you reduce the chance of being stuck with toxic player or incompetent ones .

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I was already convinced a long time ago that Tyani lacks reflective thinking because he/she/it focuses on negative emotions. I basically think it’s your own fault that things turn out like this but you don’t know why, the only thing you do is cry about it. So i assume this would also be seen as a toxic comment instead of some helpful advice but people need to find out what’s wrong before they can find out how to fix it…

I repeatedly asked to play matches and 99% of the time there was not even a response. And yeah, doesn’t exactly scream “friendly” when you tell people to shut up now does it?

Also, those were really horribly onesided games. As such, those are Bad Games. It makes no sense to say something is a good game when you lose with a 4 level defficit. I stand by my point on that one. I play(ed) the game to have fun, and i found little as the (few) people that Did want to play always ended up being either vastly higher level or lower level in mmr. The games were chaotic, unfun and onesided. You can argue all you want about talking in chat. But i was dead anyway, what am i going to do? tab out?

Also i KNOW i should be in cardboard league, yet i am placed way higher. I suck at this game and many others. What else do you want to hear?? I’ve TRIED improving, turning off chat…but it always (still) ended up being onesided slogs and 10 game losing streaks.

Also, to analyse:
-Every death feels humiliating and more like a personal attack. (unless i know full well that a mistake was made+i’m enjoying myself)
-Defeats are incredibly demoralizing.
-Taking breaks usually just makes me worse since i’ll lack the mindset(what’s left of it) and skills (what little there is) deteriorate.
-I don’t know what the hell i’m doing…i’ve queued up as Tychus and Leoric a lot lately because of deathwing, but even Tychus doesn’t hold a candle to DW’s massive hp…so i’m out of ideas of what to do. Beyond the basics i don’t know how to counter, what the meta is and so on. (On this there are Too Many guides, it’s really hard to tell what’s what anymore)

The first part is a blatant exaggeration which also fails to mention the times when I asked to play and you didn’t have time or you did something else (like doing WoW).
And sorry that I missed your whispers, it happens, because I have a setting to not show whispers while I’m playing and I have a habit to not be infront of my comp when I’m logged in.

Dude, we had a two lvl advantage till lvl 18-20 when they caught up finally. Do you want me to post the replay? It ended at 22 vs 23, “4 lvl defficit” my …
Also no need to say “GG” emptily, but saying “bg” (especially when it was because of you) it’s just too much and toxic. Silence is an option.

This is your problem and why this:

is technically (another?) lie. You ignore the suggestions of “don’t type, play” and claim that you’re dead anyway… this indicates that you are unable to accept your shortcomings and learn from your mistakes. You rather play the victim even when we were winning…

Being bad is not a/the problem. 0-24 complaining and playing the victim while you refuse to improve is.

I actually say that to ppl casually, since I don’t consider it harsh. (And tbh, ppl usually tell harsher things to their friends.)

I’m not saying this as an insult: search for professional help.

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Fine, i give up. If that’s what you want to hear :\

I don’t know how to improve and none of the suggested methods (breaks, replays multiplayer) seem to work for me. I somehow also don’t believe you about those matches, definitely wasn’t that.

I will disregard the professional help bit.

I do not want to hear that, but since you’re in denial, and you feel humiliated and personally attacked by a mere death which happens to everyone all the time in a game like this, I do think that you need professional help before you play this game again.

I can post the replay, but my guess is (since you never posted replays here), that you kinda fear that.

You were Hanzo, I was DW, map was Braxxis (match was 3 days ago, like this thread), we lead in lvl, enemy lead in structures, you complained a lot and I also posted the replay for a friend on our discord on the same day we played it. It’s also the game where you died from a single Guldan E as I mentioned in my first comment here.

I believe that’s unwise.

Yeah…that’s totally not offensive at all. You can believe all you’d like, its not like i can stop you :P. Not posting a replay had nothing to do with willingness, i had no way to post it. I tried discord and the only people who joined left immidiately.

I believe that a replay you post would not be representative. I also don’t think i’ll ever play hanzo again. Was fun at first, but the more i lose with him, the less i wanna play him.

Let me show you how can you post without the need to anyone join your own discord (something that ppl already told you btw):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400938109619011585/654047688823930880/2019-12-10_19.19.54_Braxis_Holdout.StormReplay

(This is the game where you claimed we had 4 lvl disadvantage and was one sided and you went bg at the end instead of staying silent for a change.)

Fine, I don’t know how to do that irregardless of whether people told me or not. And if a game is bad, it’s a bad game. Isn’t it?

Likewise, losing many times in a row has that effect on people. Also i already said i give up, what else have you to gain from naming and shaming me?