An idea I had for a GoT rework

[Maximus-12995]

I do really want a rework of GoT. Old GoT had its flaws but it was decently balanced, had plenty of comeback potential, and was lots of fun.

I hate new GoT with every fiber of my being.

@HolyRoxsus-1995

1st, I’d like to bring the seed gathering mechanic back. During the night cycle mobs and 2 bosses will spawn, and you have to gather the seeds in order to fill up your “bar”.

If we want to bring back the old seed gathering mechanic, I think they should only spawn on one half (top or bottom) of the map at once, like I mentioned here last July. This would force players towards the same side of the map to gather seeds, increasing the chances for encounters.
The Shamblers could also be stronger and more numerous, so it’s harder for solo heroes to speed-clear them with a single ability rotation. That would give the enemy team more time to show up to contest the seeds.

These changes should prevent players from running around avoiding each other during the objective, when they’re supposed to be fighting the most. Instead, they’d be strongly encouraged to fight over the seeds.

@HolyRoxsus-1995

2nd, once one team has gathered enough seeds, a plant will show up on the map after 30 seconds and only spawns during the night cycle, and disappears when the night cycle ends. It will be surrounded by tough ranged and melee mobs, and if the enemy gathers it it will spawn a player controlled boss (whoever grabbed the seed first) that can then be used to push and has all of the original abilities from old GoT.

Bringing the vehicle Terror back in some form is definitely a must, IMO.

I think there are some additional changes that need to be made to the Terror, though, which I laid out in this thread:

@Maximus-12995

Garden Terrors should be modified so the “Chase the Terror” game, just running away from altercations when you’re piloting the Terror, isn’t a viable strategy.

1. Terrors should lose Sprint. No more throwing down a Queen’s Curse (the Polymorph) in a chokepoint and just hightailing it out of there. You’re big and slow, stand and fight.
   Perhaps as compensation for losing Sprint, Terrors could gain a short burst of movement speed from attacking enemies, to make them more aggressive?
   
   
2. Terrors’ health should decay over time, probably at about 0.83% of its max health per second (which would take 2:00 minutes to decay if it takes no other damage). Overgrowths (the potted plants) tie into this.
   
   
3. Overgrowths should go dormant if the Terror that planted them leaves their radius, though their health will continue to decay while dormant. This means that throwing down a plant and then bailing no longer gives any value. If you aren’t staying with the Overgrowth, it’s basically good for nothing more than blocking skillshots.
   From there, either bring back Overgrowth’s damage or cause it to reduce buildings’ armor while strangling them. Additionally, Overgrowths should halt the health decay of allied Terrors within their radius, meaning you’re further encouraged to stick close to and defend your Overgrowth instead of bailing on it.

While I agree there needs to be a delay between gathering the seeds and the Terror spawning, I think a 30 second delay on the Terror might be a bit too long. That would actually benefit the winning team more than the losing team and cause a snowball effect, because they could fast-cap some camps and have those pushing in every other lane by the time the enemy team is back to deal with the Terror.
There’s a sort of balance we have to strike here to both give the losing team enough time to begin to regroup and not give the winning team enough time to snowball with mercs too hard, and I think 15-20 seconds should work.
Alternatively, making neutral camps despawn at night, or at least once a Terror is acquired, would prevent those merc-rushes.

@HolyRoxsus-1995

BUT, the enemy team can deny this seed, preventing the enemy from getting their boss, and once denied the seed will only respawn the next night. After the enemy fills their seed bar they can still take seeds to deny the enemy from filling their bar.

This is an interesting idea. Not sure how much I’d enjoy this or how balanced it’d be, but I’d be willing to give it a shot.