You do not need to put down others to prove yourself

His alignment is chaotic evil lol.

Want to fight with words for the sake of fighting and proving himself.

Very primitive mindset.

On April 30, 1993 , four years after publishing a proposal for “an idea of linked information systems,” computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee released the source code for the world’s first web browser and editor. The internet was born. That marked the day that started the gradual decline o of respect for others and dare I say empathy for the fellow man or woman.

Before , people would have to face consequences of their words and actions weather it would be a instant karma like a butt whooping, or something more slow like not having any or making friends and being a pariah. Internet was born, and you have a faceless person to talk down to and not see the facial expressions. It is so easy to be toxic now more than ever. kids even today find it to be COOL to be that way. I am not making an excuse for this behavior but sadly this is the world we live in.

We tried to make rules for the internet in the being , social rules, just like offline . The internet got to big, no more control and you have the wild west. I hope some day bad online activities will have a due and consequence but I probably won’t see it in my life time.

The only think I can think of the toxic people we keep running into every day online is pity for them. They may feel good in the moment about themselves but what habits happen online surely carry over in the real word without them thinking about it. I can only think that they will be so lonely and alone in the end with no one there for them or any kind of support in the end. Run into them? Ignore them and pity them my friends. The world, heck the universe is to big to worry about such things.

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Oh no… Scrotie is responsible for driving away regular posters.

This is BIG news.

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CURRENT times?

This has been going on for thousands of years.

Hate to be blunt about it but, welcome to reality?

Sure, it sucks and people should work on how they interact with others. Treat people like you want to be treated and so on.

I myself find that I am easily goaded into stupid exchanges and I have been trying to turn the other cheek and walk away. But it’s because I used to CARE if the person I was talking with believed elephants can fly and I would argue and argue.

What’s the Keanu meme? here it is, I think I’m quoting it right…

“I’m at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you’re right - have fun.” - Keanu Reeves .

I just think it’s sad. It’s sad that people are the way they are and they can’t be saved at this point.

If someone’s on fire and you offer them a bucket of water, they tell you to mind your business.

Burn then. IDGAF

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I don’t think it’s Scrotie. I think people are bored with this meta, and so activity is down. As the next expansion is revealed, and subsequently released, we’ll see an uptick in activity, I imagine.

Words to live by. :laughing:

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Yep. I’m at that point.

That’s my olive branch, lmao…

Note that it’s clear that Keanu doesn’t actually believe 1+1=5, so when he says “you’re right” he doesn’t mean you’re correct, he means he forfeits the debate, he means he concedes.

I know a lot of people read Keanu’s quote and sympathize with it. They know that that correcting the wrongness of others can be a thankless job — worse, it can waste precious time to accomplish nothing and make an enemy. There’s a reason why Keanu mentions “stages of life,” because he’s at the stage where he’s lost faith in the ability of the situation to improve when its flaws are fought against.

I do not sympathize with Keanu here. I see in this quote the very attitude from which evil draws its power. Anyone who has read Orwell or Solzhenitsyn would understand that the reason why the most tyrannical and murderous regimes remain in power is that everyone understands that 2 plus 2 does not equal 5, but that they lack the courage to speak against the falsehood. What Keanu is representing here is cowardice in its most pure and elemental form.

It is sad. But the “they can’t be saved” thing is projection. Like I said, Keanu is showing that he has lost faith, that he has become a coward. It’s up to him to reject his identity and redefine himself as someone who does have faith, who isn’t a coward. If he can’t make himself do this, then he can’t be saved.

I think there is some truth to the quote. One might want to pick their battles, because you can’t fight them all (there are too many for this to be possible), and many aren’t worth the effort as they are unwinnable. This isn’t to be defeatist, but rather to be realistic; many people are so entrenched in their beliefs that it’s impossible for them to change their mind.

I wouldn’t call it cowardice, in so as lacking the mental strength to partake in disagreement. It’s being able to discriminate worthwhile exchanges from those that are not.

Besides, watch John Wick and tell me Keanu is a coward. :wink:

Many a coward plays the hero on television.

Okay, but I don’t think that ever goes so far as saying that wrong is right. Perhaps just say “1+1=2 bruh” then walk away. Or at worst just say nothing, especially if you have reason to believe someone else is already on it. But it’s the words of agreement that I can’t stand.

Plus, people rationalize stuff like this so hard. Okay, yes, each of us is a mortal who only has so much time and only so much efficiency (outcome per unit time). We need to rest, we need to eat, and if we want to remain mentally healthy we need to play. But it’s so easy to exaggerate these needs and make excuses for not giving as much time as we could to do what is right. That is where I think there is a kind of spiritual value in fasting. Learning how to find comfort in deprivation. Not so much because deprivation is good — it isn’t — but because our fear of it can be even worse.

In this instance (this quote), I’d agree that we shouldn’t tell people they’re right when they’re wrong.

That’s all I’m really saying. We need to decide how to spend our time, and some disagreements are worth more time than others. Some aren’t worth any at all (in my estimation). If you believe there’s hope in educating the person you are disagreeing with, and or those on the outside listening or reading, have at it. Although, even then, there’s only so much time, and so much to disagree with.

On the level of one individual correcting another, yes. On the level of an entire society allocating a fraction of its time to correct an individual, I’m not so sure. I think as a collective we should endeavor for 100% coverage.

Well, if we’re talking about society, sure. I’m talking about as an individual. Albeit, individuals collectively comprise society. Alas, many (maybe most) of us aren’t anywhere near on the same page, making this tricky.

I may need correction…

1st, I believe it is a wrong interpretation of that message.
Reading the message in full and context, the person seems to have accumulated enough wisdom and experience to choose which type of discussions that is worthy to engage in.
In event, where he can’t stay out of it and the other are stating something wrong, he indeed wasn’t agreeing/believing in it, but wishes the other to ‘have fun’ doing so. There is no point correcting as any interaction is likely one-way.

This statement is based on fact and w/o a need to put down another.

Here, there are some misrepresentation and a needless putting down of another.

I respect this believe. But, one needs to be very clear before the words are spoken or actions taken.

I want to believe the intention is good where we want to dispel misrepresentations/wrongs/etc,etc. It can be done without the need to put others down just to show I am right*. (Just be right w/o the drama)

I had been wrong on multiple occasion. I found myself wrong after reading through post/s several time and glad I didn’t replied immediately.

Inb4 people saying then things ain’t fun. I think the occasional nonsense does add flavor to things. But, when the title* starts to define a person, that person must be aware of it.

This is all subjective. YOU may still have some “spark” left when it comes to “rescuing” society. But I have EARNED the right to believe what I believe after banging my head against the wall 10 million times in my life. I will make an assumption and apologize if I’m wrong. I assume you’re young and energetic and filled with hope for the future. When you get to the end of the yellow brick road and find a toxic garbage dump you may have a change of heart. My generation was lied to. Our grandfathers scooped up all the good stuff and are baffled that we can’t “have nice things”. Then they blame our “inefficiency” on the assumption we are buying $14 Latte’s on a daily basis. Well grandpa, we didn’t set the price of the Latte at $14 bucks number one and number two, these small “luxuries” are all we have left because we can’t afford our own homes lmao…

I won’t bore you anymore because this is a video game forum.

Back on topic. People should be nice to each other, I agree.

I’m 40 and have pancreatic cancer.

To use the abuse you’ve suffered as a justification for the abuse you dish out is the same pathetic excuse that domestic abusers tell themselves to keep it generational. Are the people that you’ve given up on literally the exact same people who have lied to you previously? No? Then stop paying hate forward.

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What’ll help you is whatever snaps you out of your self-destructive spending habits. Am I using the best means to accomplish that objective? I don’t know. Possibly not. But I’m being honest.

I can give you mathematical evidence of the degradation of our society.

Your opinion means nothing to me.

If you’re concerned about my “evidence” I can point you to Google where you can compare salary requirements for purchasing a home in 1970 VS 2022.

I don’t feel like being your teacher today. Look it up yourself.

I don’t have self destructive spending habits. I make my own shi&&y coffee every morning. I’m attacking the morons who think I can’t afford a home because I have a Netflix subscription and buy Hearthstone card packs once in a while.

Stop deflecting.

It’s irrelevant to the topic of giving up on people. Can you point to any specific people and say honestly that they specifically are responsible? Because those are the only people who deserve to be given up on. You’re holding people responsible for a crime they aren’t guilty of.

The only person who gave me cancer was me.

Yes dude. It’s a culture of bad behavior that permeates from the top down.

Most people are ineffective idiots who don’t know what a green light means.

People aren’t in a good mood when they are paying 6 bucks a gallon for gas and subsequently can’t afford to go out to the movies anymore with their family.

People in general are agitated.

Open your eyes.

The problem of the leeches again. So what if you’re agitated? Blaming people who aren’t responsible isn’t a solution to that problem.

I don’t. I direct it to the people responsible.

And. You can’t trust Lucy to hold the football. After a while you just lose that trust after ending up on your back over and over.