You mean intentionally targeted disinformation designed to undermine the credibility of opposing views?
It’s a current problem and it isn’t some organic process in any form.
Random, unvetted people on the internet is not a solution, and this is the part you don’t get.
I agree with you that there are many quality sources of information in the world, but I disagree with with the point that you exclude “random people on youtube or twitter”. You can get quality sources everywhere you just have to look for it. Not every information on social media is trash. Like I said before it’s like a market place, where you have bad and good stuff. Same applies to the big media companies, where you have to look for good quality stuff and filter it from bad stuff.
It’s like saying “random, unvetted people in your neighbarhood is not a solution” and yes it’s not a general solution for everything, but it depends on what you are looking for.
It absolutely is organic. It’s what human beings do, regardless of culture.
Good try but no.
It did start sooner and was going slowly but thanks to COVID and the recent turn of events of the journalist class in general getting upset of the democratization of the right to speak to the public things are getting faster.
Now they think they will grab on government to maintain the status quo but that move is usually one of the last any class do before going to the thrash bin.
Of course they do, that’s their entire scheme is to make things up when you go far right. I never said it didn’t. In fact, the right is 10x more the offender here. But that doesn’t mean the left doesn’t do it, just like the OP did.
OP is a prime example. The act like Twitter is dead and no one uses it. It’s blatantly false, but those on the far left like the OP want everyone to believe everyone is leaving.
Making up fake stories or exaggerating ones to push a narrative is what far left and far right do. They’re so entrenched in their views they can’t see reality. Made up statistics, exaggerated stories and twisted perspectives.
For example, the far left will act as if there is nothing wrong with Biden mentally. He’s clearly having issues. Go look at a video when he was vice president and see how articulate and well spoken he was. That’s not him today. It’s time to start facing reality. Seriously, go watch a video of him speaking as vice president. It’s eye opening.
On this point I am forced to agree with Neon.
It’s a tough choice to say what is mankind’s single greatest invention, but my personal pick would be specialization of labor. Being able to specialize in one single thing instead of generalizing in everything is just such a huge boost to human productivity. This concept of economic specialization applies to intellectual work in the same way it applies to more tangible products. Although the neurology behind faith is biologically complex, it is imminently clear that we are built on an evolutionary level to trust experts for our information. As much fun as it might sound to vet every piece of information individually, the truth is that the vast majority of us are not specialized in vetting and therefore they suck at it. It’s not a perfect system, but putting our trust in others works out better overall than evaluating everything independently, and that’s not just some guess — studies show that the best societies are ones where people trust each other and are not wrong to do so.
Not really. I mean, if every media personality did exactly the same thing, then it’d be 10x more the left just because 90% of journalists are left leaning. The left is just louder on media matters than the right is in the first place, they have ten times the word count.
And yes, I think it’s a lot worse to repeat one lie a dozen times than it is to tell two lies once each.
Sure.
This is the actual issue right now.
People don’t trust the actual ones and the “experts” are also doing 0 effort to be trust.
It’s a transition that will happen one way or another and the group being replaced is wrecking a havoc.
Or you really think that in a distant future we really not gonna have big companies that started as “one random guy on Youtube”?
But for this to happen in a world like ours there will have to be a “fight” so we earn the right to evolve as society and to put there experts we trust.
We have plenty of those currently. Usually it’s a small group of friends and some of that group gets eliminated over time, but lots of companies that are huge right now were essentially started in garages. Like Apple and Facebook. And Mr Beast — I can’t go to the supermarket these days without my sons begging me to buy something just because the fool’s name is on it.
The problem with your viewpoint here is one I see a lot in the “dialectical historicism” brand of Marxist (or, more generally, Hegelian). They believe that all history prior to now is the transcendence of thesis and antithesis leading to synthesis, but for some strange reason they believe that this next synthesis will be different and communism will reign forever at the end of history. As if the dialectical process would just realize that it’s time to suddenly turn off forever.
In the same way, you’re imagining that change will just conveniently stop when your small independent innovator revolutionizes an industry. But that’s not how reality works. Instead that innovator blows up and then they’re not so small anymore, and they become more bloated and static and corrupted and tyrannical. They become the new establishment so that the next generation of brilliant young people in garages can make them look like fools. It’s not a hero’s journey, it’s a life cycle that keeps repeating, and those who live it long enough get their turn at playing the villain.
i thought it would be a bout the number of followers on HS or HS devs and blizzard twitter accounts or their activitiy
but nothing about it after all these posts !!!
In the same sense that the German Socialist Worker’s Party was both socialist and in favor of the right of workers, lol.
It’s the status quo that’s making the grab, silly. It’s the people who have had the historical power who are most against any change.
The “democratization” you are referring to is last gasp propaganda to save a dying world view, the death thrashings of a hegemony and privilege.
I lean to the right, I’m very much conservative and Christian, and I know this to be factually and obviously true.
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He has most assuredly slowed down and it is glaring. He should not be running for second term just on his mental state and age regardless of agreement or disagreements with policy or views.
It doesn’t take the over exaggeration and doctored videos circulating on the right to make this point, yet that’s where the stuff goes. Just like the OP, all it does is further erode any trust in facts, which is the goal.
And at the same time, the people who will vehemently tell you about how unfit Biden is because of his mental decline will deny that Trump is 100% in the same boat. Go watch him talk now and in 2015… it’s a different person. That’s how aging works people… nothing about it is malicious.
Thanks. It shouldn’t have been to tough to agree with a pretty basic idea.
People just really don’t grasp how deep certain wells go but believe that youtube guy gave them all they need to know to understand immunovirology, oncology, economics, or any number of other special disciplines that require specific expertise.
This is so false it hurts.
Right, so basically they owned the propaganda machine and it said what they told it to say and nothing about any of that is democratic in the slightest. Nor is it truly socialist or pro worker.
And you can substitute religion in there just as well.
As long as you were German, this was very much the case. Not German? Not so much. They had a very ideological definition of “German.”
You should always be wary of political movements that combine socialism with an open preference for some races over others. Because what they will do if they gain power is seek one equality for some ethnic groups, and a complete different equality for the others.
I decided to actually Google it, and that was an exaggeration but I was at least aiming in the right direction. Out of every 9 journalists, there are 6 who vote Democrat, 2 that vote Republican, and 1 who votes for neither, according to a 2017 Gallop poll. Roughly.
Let’s just say that I don’t consider it to be any less socialist than the USSR. These things always have a tendency to go down the same way: one group is forced to take on the mantle of the previously oppressive bourgeoisie who is now to be oppressed, and the other the mantle of the previously oppressed proletariat who now has not only an excuse but a duty to oppress the bourgeoisie. In short, vengeance identity politics. The result is millions die.
Perhaps the single political quote I’ve ever heard that I disagree with strongest is: “The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” That’s from Ibram X. Kendi, a prominent critical race theorist. The remedy for hatred is not hatred, cold hatred is even worse than hot anger, and if you get right down to it there’s no remedy for the sins of the past other than a time machine.
I’m not talking about media personalities only here. I’m talking about actual people. If you’re a conspiracy theorist, chances are you’re on the right. That’s not coincidental. The exaggeration and the gas lighting along with the outright lies to get their way is practically par for the course if you want to be a Conservative. I don’t know how right leaning people aren’t embarrassed on a daily basis from their far right constituents. I get pretty embarrassed from some of the morons we have on the far left, but it’s no where near the abundance that exists on the other side.
That you didn’t link.
And if my vote was the litmus test in 2017 you might not get a clear picture of my views, either. The GoP is running some absolute loons right now. No one should be voting for them.
What you consider is not an arbiteur of anything, though. You are definitionally, random internet guy, lol.
But it wasn’t socialist in any real sense, it was far right authoritarian and fascist.
It actually goes hand in hand with religious beliefs, too.
As much as I dislike it, you are correct in this fact, at least right now in the USA. I have distanced myself from a number of people who seem to have gone off the deep end in many ways.
Edit: I’ve left three different congregations in the last eight years over the rise of far right crap and religious extremism infiltrating evangelical communities. People that wave their hands and dismiss it are ignorant of the truth of the current climate in the USA.
bill walsh got 177 million views in about a week for his documentary what is a woman and tucker carlsons show got like millions of views in one day. twitter is the future. fox news, cnn ect are lucky to get 2 millions views for anything
twitter is the future
This is where you made the same mistake the DNC is making. I’m not suggesting him stepping down and allowing the right to put in who they want. I was suggesting the DNC pick someone else to run. He’s terrible and they think he’s just gonna auto win vs whoever the right picks and they’re about to make the same mistake they made in 2016.
DNC needs to pull its head out of its rear and pick a better candidate. But they won’t because they live in fantasy land thinking everyone loves our current leader. It’s a joke and they’re about to pay a hefty fine for not learning their 2016 mistake.
Yup, and by refusing to run another candidate, they’ve pretty much sealed their fate and the rest of the country is going to have to suffer when the right wins. 70% of Americans saying Biden shouldn’t run and over 50% of Democrats saying he shouldn’t.
Might as well just hand the election over at this point. Once again, Americans will pay for the mistake the DNC makes. We got wrecked in 2016 and lost tons of rights, we’re about to lose tons more.
I can only think of one lost right that wasn’t a bipartisan effort. Although it’s possible that something has slipped my mind.
That said, I do hold Trump responsible for failing to prevent lockdowns. And if you don’t recognize lockdowns and surrounding legislation as the biggest loss of rights in the past century, you’re not thinking clearly.
Other than the obvious one, have you not been paying attention to the religious ones? In several states already the wall of separation of church and state is crumbling. And they aren’t even being sneaky about it, they are outright saying they want a Theocracy. Like, literally saying it. They want laws made based on the word of their god. MTG didn’t just say it, she had shirts made saying it.
When lawmakers are asked how they will represent people not of their faith now that they are elected their response is literally “by trying to convert you to my faith”.
If someone like DeSantis makes it in to office we might as well just make public schools religious indoctrination camps.
If I were an LGBTQ person, I’d be terrified.
Have you watched the new documentary about the Duggar family “Shiny Happy People”? You can see part of the scheme to get religion into politics in there. And some of those people from that cult have already made it in and are in politics right now. We’re dangerously close.