“It’s the same algorithm”
“It’s not, there’s 1 algorithm”
You’re making me pull a kewl. Stop it.
No, because the skill advantage is much lower than the deck strength advantage.
Me being a top 200 player means I’m around 1-2% better than a mid-legend (you, in this case) and even that, only on decks you and I play normally. If I play a deck you main, I’ll probably lose the advantage, as well.
I’ll prolly lose the rainbow mage mirror against you, even though we’d need to play much more games than we did to determine it, but I’m still 1-2% better overall.
Yeah, same input, different output. I know you understand the point -.-
It’s not the same.
So you provided no source ok
Let’s check the wiki then
Ranked play without a Star Bonus is determined by each player’s rank
That line exists in the wiki
It is not supported by any official claim
The opposite could have been written by any one in its place in the wiki
Which means it has no official source
Not only that, but all sources in the wiki pre date the introduction of star bonuses
All sources are 2017 or oldest, and the ranking system has been revamped in 2020
But your inability to verify your source is ours
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Reference 5, you lazy fool. I told you, the wiki has direct links to official Blizzard posts. But nooooo you had to lie.
Ref 5 does not support that line.
5 is for
The player’s matchmaking value is the only data used in the matchmaking process: other details, such as class, deck, or playing history are not taken into account and never affect matchmaking.
[…]
Blizzard have consistently denied that the matchmaking system has any such knowledge of player decks, match-ups or history.
Which is irrelevant to the discussion
This is true, and also irrelevant
I think the wiki is correct on this one, but rarely do we see that rule in action, anyway
New players don’t rise in ranks fast enough for it to make a difference.
some people actually abuse that to gain advantage for MT qualifications - they make new accounts, start with 2-3 stars to get matched with worse players, and then hit legend with 90+ winrate which puts them in top 50-100, instead of like top 200-300, which gives them a HUGE advantage in grinding to top 10.
The advantage is HUGE, because you only gain around 10% of your ranks on average per win, so from 200 to top 10 is many times more wins than from top 50 to top 10
You can check for yourself
200-20 = 180 - 18 = 162 - 16 = 136 - 14 = 122 - 12 = 110 - 11 = 100 - 10 = 90 - 9 =81 -8 = 73 - 7 = 66 - 7 = 59 …
50 - 5 = 45 - 5 = 40 - 4 =36 - 4 = 32 - 3 = 29 - 3 = 26…
Clearly you need a lot more wins from top 200 to top 10 than from top 50 to top 10, and the players in top 200 are too good to have a big advantage over them (although, there’s like 50 players who DO have such an advantage over top 200 players, and they are pro’s)
There’s a lot more than just that. I suggest you read it, since you still think their plain explanation of how it works is nonsensical.
Also, why you not online on battle.net? It’s been like a week
I am just waiting for expansion release.
No reason to play now.
You can at least chat
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I suggest you stop lying about what I’m saying.
All I’ve been doing so far is asking your source that you refused to provide until now.
“Find my source yourself” is not a source. If you’re the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you, it’s not each of your readers that has to do their own research.
You called out the lazyness but I called out your stubbornness of preferring a sterile back and forth of yes-no-yes-no over providing actual evidence to the discussion (and lazyness to do so).
But sure it’s better to blame people that don’t know instead of trying to teach them.
I’ve never contradicted your explanations nor your claims of how it works. But I guess your blood was still boiling of your previous argument and you didn’t figure that out.
This is a very promising threat. Well done op!
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The first time you asked I said it was in the wiki on how matchmaking works with links to the originals.
Only willful ignorance makes that insufficient.
I am confused.
Is Mand speaking on behalf of Blizzard because he talks as if he is? Mand are you officially making a Blizz stance?
Otherwise, please link the black and white written rules so we can read them and be educated. Thanks.
I am talking the actual rules that say how this is all layed out. You know it so very clearly, please enlighten us as to the actual rule set so we can learn too.
I already did, are all of you people blind or just illiterate?
What do you mean, “you people?”
I am not reading through your nonsense. Post the actual Blizz written black and white rules, state you are in fact speaking for Blizz or admit your speaking from opinion only.
Also, racism noted.
I did that. Why are you trolling?
Either state you are speaking for Blizz, you are stating opinions or show the actual black and white written rules Blizz is officially using or I am reporting you for racism and trolling.
Because Goramier thinks threats are more effective than scrolling up a few lines.
Will you now be quiet?