Why doesn't HS consider deck composition?

If all you have left is

NO U

Then I think we’re done here.

It’s not my fault you make no sense.
If ranking and MMR were the same then one would suffice, no reason to have two.

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The funny thing is that a lot of times if a counter deck isn’t being used right, I can still beat it when I’m playing something I’m practiced with.

None of the matchups are 0-100, unless this guy plans to rig the draws as well.

They ARE the same. You’re matched by your rank and nothing else.

The exceptions at the start of the season when you have bonus stars, are in Legend, or in Casual, when your MMR is used.

Try actually learning how the system works before attacking those who know more than you do.

And how long would you keep playing if every game did that?

That’s not actually true.

You can have an MMR of a top 200 player and be silver 10 (and you usually are at one point at the beginning of every month)

You can finish the season as top 200, and then play against a Diamond 1 when you’re bronze 8, because your MMR is the same as of the Diamond 1 opponent.

Rank = MMR only works for people who never hit legend in their lives.

:person_facepalming:

Like… ???

Maybe if you didn’t cut out the important bits it would make sense. Like, all of the actual information.

That goes to you too, Altair. You’re not matched by rank if you’re top 200 MMR and it shows silver 10 while you have bonus stars.

Yet again
HOW do you establish powerlevel ?

Please name a “serious company” producing PVP games that has 0 balance issue and is aware of every interaction of their game and knows exactly the powerlevel of everything.

Not mentionning that playtesting will never be able to cover all the possibilities that the players will come up with
In the past we’ve seen high tier decks emerging months after the release of all the cards they needed to exist. If such decks take months to be discovered by the whole community, how do you expect a playtesting to be able to cover that ?
How do you expect playtesting from being able to know in advance the whole evolution of the meta ?

It was your literal text cut to show it’s nonsensical.

Yeah, it’s not possible to have a more precise system than we already have.

You can try “rigging” matchmaking to make it more balanced, but then you’re not taking into account people who play too little, so their MMR > rank, which impacts their winrate

If you match those people with people of same deck strength, they will win because of their superior skills, and leave that rank, and then get matched with stronger decks only - and now, suddenly, the game is rigged to only match you with your counters, just like people believe is already happening xD

It actually happens because people don’t play enough games, so they get stuck in ranks with lower skills then theirs.

I was like that for 2 months. Stuck in 3-4k with 70+ winrate. Why? How?

Simple. I had bad luck streak and thought I couldn’t advance to top 200, while my skills were actually top 200 all the time.

It’s not nonsensical, it’s very simple.

If you don’t have bonus stars, your rank is the only input into the matchmaker. If you’re Gold 4, it will look for other Gold 4 players. It doesn’t care what your MMR is, because it’s using rank and nothing else. It might find you a Gold 5 or Gold 3 player if it had to look for a while, but it’s still only using Gold 4 as a basis for the search.

Do you accept that this is the reality, or will you insist that this is nonsensical?

Through general and specific win rate.

I am expecting them to continue working on it. Not prophesize it before launch and do jack after. They are meant to work on the game.

It was nonsensical.
MMR isn’t the same as ranking. Just say you are wrong, it’s fine.

Whatever you are thinking that doesn’t differentiate the two wasn’t written in your text.

What you label the scale is irrelevant.

Standard uses ranks, Casual uses MMR. Both use the exact same matchmaking algorithm.

But you’re matching people based on their deck strenght. If you do that propely, then the winner is usually the person who plays better.

Such a person will soon leave those ranks and get matched to only decks which counter theirs. That’s rigged. And not in a good way.

Not true. It uses ranks and MMR.

No, Standard uses ranks —OR— MMR. And never at the same time.

God, how I love being ignored!

Anyway, the suggestion is counter-productive. Sorry.

How so?
The better person is meant to climb. And if they are good they’ll still come out positive from facing counters, as most good players do even now.

No. If I play a tier 3 deck and get matched to another tier 3 deck, I’ll win because my skills are better.

Because I won, I’ll get matched with:

a) better players who play tier 3 decks, and/or
b) same skill players who play stronger decks.

a) is ok, but if I’m top 200 player, and 2-3 people play tier 3 decks in top 200, you will give me rank 3, which I don’t deserve, so this matchmaking has failed.

b) is rigging in exactly the same way that people already think the game is rigged - I’d only get matched to decks which counter mine, to compensate for pilot’s lack of skills. Suddenly I play 20-30% winrate matchups only, which is not fair, and I might get stuck in a rank much worse than I deserve,

Either way, not ok.