Some dummy will dust Rags & N’Zoth

…that text was added after the original blog post went up, and after the Reddit clarification.

The original blog post didn’t say anything about the cards being temporary.

They literally updated the blog post. The original one (the one that was up for several hours including the time when I made that last comment) had no mention of whether players would be keeping the cards, hence the subsequent confusion, clarification on Reddit, and update to the blog.

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So you want them to not answer questions on Reddit?

It’s not like they didn’t immediately add the clarification to the official announcement.

Oh, I know. They could have used Spyware to send a message to everyone who read the official announcement before they added the clarification. So you can then turn around and accuse them of spying on you.

They could’ve made an announcement also here. On their official forums. Is that really that unreasonable?

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Of course it is; you expect them to remember the URL? :wink:

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Just for the record, this is what the original article said:

We’re going to be pulling some of the most popular and game-changing cards from across Hearthstone history, including Ragnaros the Firelord and N’Zoth, the Corruptor, out of Wild and dropping them back into Standard for a limited time. To ensure that everyone can participate in this meta-mixing event, we’ll be granting everyone free copies of each card (these copies cannot be disenchanted or crafted) so they can add these heavy-hitters to their decks and get them into the action.

As phrased, it was unclear whether the cards were temporary, or just their status as Standard-legal was.

Here’s the announcement
“Now that the Saviors of Uldum Standard ladder experience has solidified, we think it’s a great time to throw a wrench or two (or twenty-three) in the gears. We’re going to be pulling some of the most popular and game-changing cards from across Hearthstone history, including Ragnaros the Firelord and N’Zoth, the Corruptor, out of Wild and dropping them back into Standard for a limited time. To ensure that everyone can participate in this meta-mixing event, we’ll be granting everyone free copies of each card (these copies cannot be disenchanted or crafted) so they can add these heavy-hitters to their decks and get them into the action. These cards will be considered “event” cards, which essentially means that they’re temporary copies and not permanent additions to your collection. Even if you already own the cards you’ll still get these event copies, and when the event ends they’ll disappear.

Seems pretty clear to me. If they revised it from the original, so what? It’s not like the event has happened already. So people that can’t read or can’t comprehend the statement above are flatly stupid. What is there to sympathize with?

I have a feeling when this event is over and the cards are going back to wild, there will be a wild bundle available at the shop.
Maybe 20$ - 30$, 5 packs of each set.

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If only they had an employee whose job it was to relay information directly here. They could have different colour text for posting, maybe blue to match Blizzards logo, and an official sounding title like community manager.

Probably too expensive for a multi-billion dollar company, but one can dream…

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We literally just covered this in the posts above the one you made. The initial announcement (the one that the people you mocked were referring to) did not include the part I highlighted above and did not mention whether players would be keeping the new copies. This led to confusion, which led to clarification on reddit, which led to an update to the article.

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Ok, first of all, wasn’t telling you to learn to read, from the questions you had I genuinely thought you just skimmed over the announcement.

Secondly, “limited time” means temporary, and I’m not sure why that warranted clarification, but we got it.

Yes, they said that the cards would be available for free for a limited time. Not that the cards were removed after that limited time. SN1P SN4P was available in gold for a limited time, we got to keep it.

Clarity is essential in communication, and the original was as clear as mud in that regard.

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Jesse might have forwarded the official post upon release. I miss Jesse.

Initially:
A. This is a limited time event.
B. We are giving all the cards (uncraftable) so players can add them to their decks.
C. These cards will be Standard legal.
D. Full details on October 4th.

There’s this big jump into thinking that something provided for a limited time event, which is explicitly being removed at the end of the event, is somehow a full giveaway for the Wild format.

This seems like Blizzard looked at the MTG full collection event and said, “We give players free cool cards for limited time events, but unlike MTGA we add them to every format and even competitive events”.

BTW I think they told some pro players about the event ahead of time, either that or the Omnistone Crystal Ball was perfectly tuned since they mentioned they would like to see Ragnaros & N’Zoth back in Standard for a limited time a few hours before the official post.

That’s incorrect. What the Rise of the Mechs post says is that you can only get the Golden copy by logging in during the event duration, and that the normal copy can be crafted with dust.

This is completely different from saying that you will be given SN1P as non craftable for use only during the event.

If they had merely only allowed use of the 23 for a limited time if you had them, there would have been outrage about it being a money grab. I would venture to say it’s possible regular copies will remain Wild exclusive for the event duration, blocking Whales access to their golden copies.

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true, but the original announcement this time had no mention of the cards being removed after the event ended. Sure, many people assumed that would be the case, I was one of them, but you know what they say about the word assume, right?

It was 100% unclear as to whether or not people would keep those cards in its original form, and anyone arguing otherwise clearly hasnt dealt with something like contracts where being unclear on a relatively minor detail could have HUGE repercussions.

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These cards will be considered “event” cards, which essentially means that they’re temporary copies and not permanent additions to your collection. Even if you already own the cards you’ll still get these event copies, and when the event ends they’ll disappear.

I don’t ever remember signing a contract with the clause: “We will have more to share… on October 4th”

Context Marcos, youre smarter than this.

Example: When I was doing my apprenticeship ~20 years ago, we had a supervisor who did a quote. the TL;DR of the quote/estimate sent off was “prepare & paint all external surfaces”

What he didnt do was breakdown which surfaces and, as he had no clue (seriously I could have done his job better, even as an apprentice), completely missed 3 courtyards contained within the perimeter of the building, meaning he under-quoted by a significant margin, all due to the absence of a few key words. Contracts were signed, supervisor got shown the door.

Clarity is essential. No, its not a contract, but clarity is still essential when dealing with clients. The original lacked any form of clarity, thats simply fact. It could have led to people dusting the “free for the event” cards that they owned the originals based on the original article, thats is simply fact and, yes, Blizzard would be 100% responsible for it as they had not (at that time) FULLY disclosed the fact that the cards were only “free for use” during the event.

Its similar to my above analogy as, when I am told that I will get all 23 cards for FREE during the event, without any mention of ONLY for the duration of the event, that implies that I get to keep said cards, even if I cant dust them.

Yes, we can ASSUME that we lose them when the event ends, but without confirmations assumptions makes an (contains a word not allowed, 1st 3 letters) out of u & me.

Clarity. Is. VERY. IMPORTANT! Something which was lacking in the original article.

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The clarification is great. But you also know better than not to expect players to abstain from doing the absolute most idiotic things. It happens every single event.

Unless the disclaimer is placed on the disenchantment option of the 23, it’s very likely going to happen; and they will post it here.

For misleading you have to look at MTGA. They told the players that Wild to Historic (rotating cards) would go 2 for 1, so some players crafted the soon to be Historic cards at 1 for 1. Then WOTC turned around and said they would be 1 for 1, and no daily Quest completion on the Historic format they just crafted cards for.

dude your the idiot here, just because i dont talk about temporary doesnt mean i dont know it. maybe ive got wrong the end placement but i was refering to the idea