Rogue seems fine after the change

Skulking Geist is one of the biggest :poop: in the history of HS.

Control decks couldn’t run one mana spells, and everyone else had to puke out their own by turn 5 when facing control for 20 months.

But it’s worse than that. It didn’t work! Druid was still head and shoulders above the rest and needed to get nerfed.

It’ll survive, yes, but will it be still healthy? I don’t think so.
Before we get either more cost changes or wait until next expansion and pay for it I definitely don’t see any Rogues above T3, I don’t even think Pogo will make it after buff.
But that’s just my opinion, now we have to wait or test it ourselves.

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Far more experienced players than you or I think otherwise. I will guarantee rogue has a T2 (minimum) deck when the dust settles.
But that’s just my opinion.

It’s me or whenever someone without a lot of posts on forums like me says something, others immediately think they are more experienced or the guy just started playing. I’ve been playing Rogue exclusively since Beta, always following the meta, hell I destroyed every cards for all other classes so I could get all the cards for Rogue. I know what I’m talking about and I might be way more experienced than You with all Rogue-related subjects.
It’s the first time since the release of the game that I feel like using the forums because Prep nerf is just a huge hit to the whole class and all it’s standard and wild decks. We can’t know for sure how it’ll end up but from my point of view Prep was never broken, it can’t let you out of any situations and needs to be paired to be used properly raiding party and prep WAS broken yeah but that’s about it. Sprint was already pretty fcking expensive to play and usually a bad option even on turn 4 with Prep in this meta, Vanish was ok with Prep but if we compare with Brawl alone it’s a fcking joke after nerf. Imo contract is still usable without Prep but way more risky to pull off.
Fyi I used different variations of the tempo rogue for climbing the ladder but I prefer by far any other decks even if they have a low winrate, I mostly play Malygos Rogue, Mechathun Rogue, Pogo Rogue and Thief Rogue for the fun factor and what I said is true for all those decks, prep wasn’t something broken and now makes Vanish and Sprint handicaps more than anything else, even the Tak-Prep-Espionnage combo was tight most of the time to pull off, now I’ll be dead even before the next turn.

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My panties were just fine until you started making proclamations.

I got a fantastic highlight last night playing off meta Rogue. I got a Rogue Scheme from Fox and played it on Ticket Scalper. I could imagine my opponent thinking I was some kind of idiot until I played Hooktusk and Shadowstep.

But I am not as optimistic as Zalae regarding Hooktusk’s meta prospects, because if it was that good some kind of deck would have made the news, even if only for a day or two.

I have tried the Shark deck and I am very skeptical.

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And, truce?

You don’t criticise me when voicing my concerns on BP, and I give you the same courtesy when discussing rogue.

Not so pleasant being on the other side of the debate, is it?

I don’t want you ā€œadvisingā€ me not to deter others from wild while discussing a very real issue of the format, any more than you want me telling you you’re being premature with the doomsaying on rogue.

Deal???

Take that political satire out of here.

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You mean when you were also making proclamations about what Blizzard is going to do with the res mechanic, which somehow happens to be in agreement with your point of view?

Making predictions about something on the basis that it’s the thing you think should happen is precisely why we are arguing so much.

I say that as someone who plays a lot of Rogue and despises BP.

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I take that as a NO, so lets dance.

Firebat, Zalae and Purple are all playing it with great success, this is a YOU issue. You can be skeptical all you want, but these are top tier players who are saying that Rogue will be fine, so who do you think I will believe? You, with your premature doomsaying, or those who can actually play the game at the top level?

This deck is capable at 500+ legend, utilising 2 of the nerfed cards, at this point in time.

The nerfs are NOT as bad as you want to believe, yet you are ā€œproclaimingā€ doom for the class, while all signs suggest otherwise. You being unable to adapt to the change is where the issue lies. Thats your proclamation after less than a day since the nerfs hit, despite the fact that others are having success with the class.

If you cant adapt to these changes while others can, its very much a YOU issue.

Hence the reason you are blinded regarding these nerfs. Dont let your biases get in the way of truth!

Rogue is still ridiculously broken & moron-proof. Puke lackeys, puke more lackeys, steal cards or copies of cards from opponent, steal spells(always good ones) from opponent, get weapon with lifesteal(Kingsbane 2.0), load hand with more lackeys and spells, lots of targeted removal so taunts and threats are dead instantly. Puke hand again with lackeys.

Did I miss something? They didnt nerf a damned thing. Lackeys are stupid and should be deleted from the game for starters.

I just saw Hunterace’s Shark deck from week 1. It plays all 3 of the nerfed cards.

I ask again, is he submitting the same deck again?

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I’m not a fan of ā€œnerfing classic set is needed.ā€ Kind of seems like a cheap way of saying ā€œwe don’t really think these expansions out.ā€ I mean one deck ruins multiple other decks that aren’t ā€œtop tierā€

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Whenever in doubt, GO FACE! It always works

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