Gotcha. I thought maybe I missed some dev interview somewhere.
And that’s fine too. I think most people play the game to have fun. Your fun is in the Ranked mode. I have more fun in the Casual mode. But I still don’t see what has changed about the game that the devs should impose this penalty in such a stealthy way without even explaining it anywhere.
Maybe to incentivize players to play ladder to try and increase sales?
Usually it all boils down to money. But that’s an educated guess. If there isn’t an explanation anywhere, all we can do is speculate.
And I like you because you are a reasonable human. I hope that you are well irl regardless of HS issues.
I’m happy with rewards track.
I earned 10k gold last cycle…
and I’ve already earned 1100 since the expansion dropped.
nope, it’s a fact 
you did it on purpose, there’s no other explanation
It truly would be nice to see a developer comment on the Casual penalty (or the Rank bonus if you prefer) to understand their rationale behind this unprecedented decision.
I did not.
then you made too many misplays, 0-11 is impossible unless you have l2p issues
Possible. It could also be a weaker deck playing into strong decks. But it happens. Losing streaks happen. And tumbling down the ladder makes for an unpleasant experience.
the problem comes from your mistakes, not from the ladder/star system
You’re stilll missing the point. Losing streaks happen. They happen to good players, too. I’ve seen Thijs lose 5 or 6 in a row. The point is that a losing streak makes ladder tumble an unpleasant experience, so many people avoid it. That’s not good for the game. Making losses less punishing would encourage more people to play Ranked. Even adding floors at each level (rather than each star) would go a long way in that regard. I don’t see the harm in that. If you want to judge yourself againt other players, compare Legend ranks, since that’s a better indicator anyway.
thijs mostly plays meme decks to get viewers, it’s his job, that’s how he pays his bills lol
you can lose a a few stars but in the end, you’ll get more than you lose, the “unpleasant” part doesn’t last long
and how do you know that?
there’re already more than enough rank floors, remember when they didn’t even exist, it still wasn’t that hard/long to climb
the legend cardback is already given to everyone, there’re already way too many people in legend, at this point a new rank above legend is almost required
Too many for what? Is it too crowded in the virtual VIP room? It’s just electrons; they don’t take up any actual space. Why does there need to be another rank? If you are Rank 72, how are you impacted if the Legend rank goes to 5,000 or 55,000? You’re still 72.
i have no idea why you’re still debating, the legend rank/cardback is already given to everyone but somehow, you need more rank floors in order to reach it?
Evidence and reality indicate otherwise.
I don’t think anyone misses your point, I think nearly everyone disagrees with it.
We get your issues with ladder system, but they are honestly your issues not blizzards. Ladder is fine as is.
Fine for you. And that’s ok. I’m just curious how adding more floors would negatively impact your gameplay? It would get more casual players into the ladder and result in more deck variety in ladder. I think that’s good for the game.
Additionally, imposing the harsh Casual penalty is bad for the game.
It’s not a ladder if you can’t go in both directions.
If you require training wheels to ride you don’t get to compete in the Tour de France and MLB doesn’t let you use a tee if the pitchers are too scary.
The ladder isn’t broken and doesn’t need fixing. It is by design a competitive ladder. You can play or not, up to you.
The expectation that the game needs to shift to accommodate your needs works in access to public buildings, not in esports.
and it’s not even competitive anymore, it was easy to climb in the old system and now, it’s even easier, i don’t understand why would anymore need more rank floors
So a floor at each numbered rank would be ok? Just not at every star. Seems reasonable. Still a little risk of a short tumble, but much more limited in the maximum you can fall during a losing streak.
Hearthstone ladder is the Tour de France? Come on. Maybe the Grand Masters finals at Blizzcon would compare. Ladder should be more like the local county 5k Fun Run. Competitive for those who choose to finish at the front (high Legend), but still fun for those who run a 12min/mile pace.
(inb4: I know I conflated biking and running, but the point is still there)
Didn’t say it was.
Improving. Not fixing.
It’s still a competitive ladder if you add floors at all the numbered ranks. You still compete against other players in the race up the ranks. Higher win rate moves you up more quickly, while a lower win rate will result in a much slower climb (just not as slow as it is now).
I don’t expect anything. I’m suggesting an improvement that will make the game better overall.
I think I covered that. More floors would limit how far you can tumble down the ladder. A big tumble can be very frustrating and discouraging to many players. Adding floors limits that tumble and the associated frustration, keeping players engaged until they get back on the winning side and continue climbing. If you are zooming up to ladder to Legend with almost no backsliding, then that’s great for you. In that case, this improvement would not help you, but it would not hurt you either.
No. They already nerfed it too far, imo. The rank floors are too easy as is.
Except it’s not and improvement overall. It’s training wheels for people with problems that should be dealt with outside of this game. The issue is 100% yours, not blizzards.
People have different ideas about fun. The ladder doesn’t need another nerf and would be further weakened by the changes you propose.
If it isn’t broken, stop trying to fix it. There are much better uses of their resources that giving pity legend to every noob who plays enough games.
Learning to manage your emotions, analyze your play, and figure out how to get back to winning is part of the game. That is more important that stars, tbh. There are already too many floors. Leave the ladder alone.
Play or don’t, but stop asking for them to make legend a participation trophy.