The satire is that these complaint topics don’t do basic research.
That is what I hate about Fire Emblem and what I hate about Hearthstone. Yeah, it is fine and good if archetype is strong against another… but there still should be a competitive chance. Instead it is aggro beats control because it gets crazy highrolls/sticky boards/recurring wide boards that control cannot answer and aggro beats OTK whereas control competes against itself in Tier 4. If you allow a deck to output 60-70 damage OTKs you have to allow other decks at least a reasonable chance to amass 60-70 durability to survive it. Otherwise we are playing solitaire.
Tho I know Blizzard is fine with that, so complaining is pointless more or less.
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You are obviously trolling just because you lost. You are fine with playing an OTK deck just not losing to one.
I hate modern OTK decks because of what they do to the meta (running hail mary tech cards that devolve the game into a coin toss: I managed to grab/fish out/destroy your crucial OTK piece wih Theotar/Rat/Patchwerk? I won. I didn’t? I lose). You certainly do not since you are running Odyn Warrior.
You have one good point tho: 0 cost cards. They always lead to broken stuff: Tony Priest/Druid, Questline DK, MIracle Priest/Rogue… and so on and so forth. But well, everyone and their mother knows that mana reduction is out of whack in modern Hearthstone and whenever the deck becomes Top Tier it is more likely than not by cheating copious amounts of mana.
As a Warrior in this matchup, you are pretty 50/50 (only because you will likely mulligan for a Drum Circle build, Warrior is probably slightly favoured if it mulligans for the correct matchup). Your maximum armour gain in a standard Control Warrior list is 64 (plus 48 if you roll a 10 mana armour gain weapon with Ignis), meaning 142-147 absolute maximum health depending on whether or not Renathal is used. The Druid’s maximum (main decked) damage - not including Lightbinder’s Gift finding additional burn - is in excess of 150, so you can’t afford to sit around forever and let them gather materials, even as a Warrior, you will simply not win this matchup by trying to armour out of range. You have to kill them, or at least pressure them enough that they have to use valuable burn spells on your minions so that you might armour out of range (although this should never be your main strategy outside of an extremely scrappy game where they used a significant amount of their combo to stay alive and your Odyn is sitting on the bottom of your deck).
If you’re really desperate to win this matchup by becoming invincible to their combo, you’ll need to do something ridiculous, like running Razorfen Rockstars and Rockmaster Voone/Zola to create more extreme armour gain.
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You do have a competitive chance. By changing your deck.
you are asking to nerf the worst deck in the game right now …a deck that loses pretty much everything else
just dont go afk while playing agaisnt it
Another thought I had. If you really want to gain %s in this matchup as Warrior for some bizarre reason, you can put Disruptive Spellbreakers in. The Druid can’t really clear it easily, especially if you draw it off a Chorus Riff so they’ll just have to sit there while it discards their hand. Obviously you’re just making your deck worse for the sake of improving your matchup against a tier 4 deck but the option is there.
Odyn isnt an otk deck looool
Show me someone playing odyn and otk’ing someone with the remaining 2 mana. Thats what an otk is. ONE TURN KILL. No one is otk’ing the same turn they play odyn
I’ll wait. Cus you wont. Odyn isnt an otk
You don’t suddenly kill your opponent as soon as you play him. You are just Bs’ing.
He sets up a late game win condition where you can slowly chip away at your opponent with your armor generation
Let’s just agree these devs suck and end the discussion. I can’t tell you how many times someone plays The Jailer and then plays the card where the minion is supposed to take the damage instead of the player so that you can’t damage either of them or the warlock plays Mal’Ganis and same effect. Ridiculos. Standard sucks. Wild sucks. IDAF if they silence me. Fire them all.
Another reason trash tier players shouldn’t be talking about game balance. You know that deck has no board clears and folds to any kind of pressure. So I dunno wwhat you’re talking about here xD. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Sacrilege. You just suggested that a player who is complaining actually
CHANGE
THEIR
DECK?
Never in a million years would such a thing be the solution to someone’s problems. Clearly the only method to assist someone in winning is to demand nerfs.
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Odyn can be countered by stopping the battlecry
Explain how, other than transform effects from specific classes, you can counter a full resurrection board of spell pwr minions and 0 cost spells to the face
its basically the same idea as spell pwr shaman, not many counters when you cant do anything to force them to dump their entire hand
Let me tell you that Druid should never had to out armor the Warrior. But it did.
Yes, it did in the past, but not now. Druid is really bad, unless you like dumb dumb druid or otk scam.
I sure hope you never meet a djmanastorm otk deck. The mana cheat in that one is insane by comparison.
Did you read my post. I said it did.
You replied to nobody and you simply said that. So excuse me if I misunderstood you.
Of course it was to replied to nobody. Therefore you made me come back to reply.
Would you look at that, Merc who has made posts about nerfing every single deck in the Format is actually defending Odyn. Guess that’s the deck you play huh.
It’s actually more simple than you think … just play minions. You are welcome for the enlightenment.
Yeah basically the same, except for the fact that Druid doesn’t have any board clears or removal and is susceptible to the very core part of this game which is playing minions.
Which is why we care about hearing what deck someone is playing when they complain about another deck. If you’re playing the one deck that is the biggest prey for the deck being complained about, obviously you want it nerfed.