Well, depends on what you consider to be fair.
The XP required per gold increases over the whole track starting at 1 XP = 1 gold (level 2) and ending somewhere near 29 XP/gold at level 150. Is 29 XP/gold big or small? I guess depends on how easy it is to get 29 XP.
its 300xp per hour, so 10g per hour. I fail to see how that’s worse than needing to WIN 3 games to earn 10 gold. The claims that some people make in order to continue to ride the hate train are laughable. Who is legit earning 10g / hour average in the old system? And if you were, WHY? the only way to win that fast is by spamming the most top tier aggro deck possible. That deck costs like 4000 dust. What do you even need the gold for if the only thing that supports your playstyle is practically free? Unless you literally play 12 hours a day every single day, 10 hours grinding gold and 2 hours of casual LOL what is wrong with you?
Yeah it’s a slap in the face to players who clearly heard all of the designers lie and claim the rewards would be “better”. They aren’t better and the game is a miserable time sink now. I have had many days when I made my 60gold minimum in thirty minutes or less.
Blizzard killed that.
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Don’t forget you used to get gold for each daily quest as well as your wins. It wasn’t hard to make 100g a day just goofing off for an hour or so.
Agreed! It was quick and dirty to make your 60, then you could meme bg or whatever.
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kk but I meant through 3-win rewards only. my bad wasn’t clear.
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I went 7-1 in ranked yesterday over about an hour. That’s 20g right there, but I got 20 dust from a crappy old expansion pack instead.
Hey man, be thankful it’s not a Grand Tournament pack. That expansion SUCKED!
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Yeah yeah of course you did. And therefore 7-1 is your average win rate right? And you earn, on average, 10g per hour through wins alone across and entire expansion cycle. Sure ok
If that’s how they calculated things then they’re really bad at math. The conversion of daily quests is the best way to demonstrate this. The “play 3 games as x, y, or z class” were 60 gold quests in the old system and 1000 XP in the current system. The quests that were 50 gold are now 800XP quests so then at a minimum 100 gold should be the equivalent of 1600 XP.
If you wanna spread the 6000 XP weekly quests gives into those it’d be around 2000-2500 XP per 100 gold but then you run into the issue of them having said you wouldn’t need to change your playing habits to earn the same or more under this new system and having to complete weekly quests increases how much people have to play ladder in particular.
I’m still not seeing how that’s bad. If you earn 300xp per hour playing, that’s 10g per hour. 10g per hour is not realistically worse for anyone except the unicorn above.
Grinding 10 gold per win for 30 wins was always a suckers game. The most efficient way to play was to finish your daily quest and maybe a 1-3 3 win rewards which is easily done in under an hour depending on skill level.
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The best way to line your pockets has been to use all your gold to play arena, until you no longer want packs. There is a learning curve, which HearthArena helps immensely with. I am by no means great at it. I think I probably average 3.5 wins. Now i’m really not sure about the arena or heroic duels strategy yet. Like Kripp explained, if Duels is MMR based, then the system will almost force you into 3-3 average no matter how good you are. Arena should still be similar, where if you go even slightly positive like 4-3, you have a net gain dust at the least.
I went 7-0 last week, which was the last time I played ranked before the weekly this week.
But to be clear, I am at 70% win rate for the season in ranked at 36-15. It got tremendously easier to win streak when I started matching on stars instead of MMR. As I said, I hadn’t played constructed much in a long time.
No that’s the worst way to do it. Breaking even in arena in the sense that you get 1 pack and 50 gold requires 4 wins. Making a profit requires 7 wins. For a while blizzard posted the best monthly arena average run lengths and the absolute best, I’m talking 5-10 people per server max, anyone got was around 7. For anyone other than those few people arena is a net gold loss.
You gain dust but dust is a much less valuable currency than gold and you’re never going to have enough gold or average high enough arena runs to be able to turn that little bit extra dust into anything more valuable than the gold itself.
An old pack for level 27 is sickeningly cheap.
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Even I can conjure up some better ideas than just packs.
At level 25+ they should just give us,
- Choice between 3 packs of Year of Phoenix, or 1 ticket.
- Choice between 200 gold or 1 Random Epic Card.
- Hell, even at lv.50, they can just give us 750 gold or Hero Portrait.
Those I mentioned can be absolutely helpful, either whale or F2P.
But nope. They think we are grateful for that 1 pack or Outland.
Blizzard: "What can you do? Don’t like it? Go home and cry!
To make the calculation fair, Let me remind you that
- You have to pay $20 to get more XP bonus.
- You usually get Free legendary and 3 (or more) packs each expansion that comes with L.Quest.
- Reaching to level 20+ takes F2P like 15+ days, and that is the same as 900 golds (average) in the old system.
- Cosmetic doesn’t really matter to F2P a lot.
In that comparison, you don’t really get much more than the old system.
- I hope to get a lot of gold for my $20, it is a % so the more I play, the more I get
- free legendary is the one at level 1, 6 packs come from Duels quest line (seems though that not everyone got these quests)
- it has taken me ca. 6 days to reach level 20 without the pass (i’ve bought it on Nov. 19th at level 23), but to be fair, I have bought the megabundle, so I had more options for deck building
- yeah, I could live without cosmetics and I am not f2p basically
Nah, the biggest increase will come from quests. Youre still capped to 400 per hour in ranked, you just get there quicker.
Capped at 400 XP? Are you sure? I think that they said you can get around 400XP, not that there is a cap. Well I have no good win rate in ranked, so it is impossible for me to measure this 
Maybe after season reset, I can get better win rate after the reset.